Ocelot

I might buy these knockoff Mazdaspeed seats for my car at that price. Even after shipping its pretty decent. Anyways, they say they are universal, but I don't really trust that. Anyone get these into their car, and how easy was it? Any modifying of anything involved?

RETed

I've been looking at them recently, and I would seriously questions their safety.
In this case, cheap can get you killed.
I would not want to compromise my safety because I couldn't afford a proper seat.
I would highly recommend to save up the cash and get a entry-level Sparco or MOMO.
They offer seats under $300, and they pass DOT, TUV, and FIA safety standards.


-Ted

Ocelot

Well how bad exactly are they? Are we talking like similar to stock just don't expect it to be amazing on track day, or when I slam on my brakes i'm going to get my *** rammed into the dash by a seat?

RETed

What I would worry about is if you get rear-ended and the back part of the seat fails.
You don't even need to be on the track.
Can you say instant back breaker?


-Ted

JasonL

Yes, I"ve had this happen actually, but with a dodge caravan, tilting back part of the seat broke and went right flat, pretty bad wipelash, i ended up sliding back and the middle of my neck was past the headrest.

Ocelot

What exactly do you mean by "fails"? I'm trying to picture what the back of a seat could do while getting rear-ended that would break my back exactly. You mean like the part where it makes the seat move up and back like detaches from the bottom part? Is it really that bad of a seat, or just because its a knockoff you can assume that it is?

Ocelot

Also, any suggestions for safer seats that have a similar look to them for around the same price shipped?

BlaCkPlaGUE

I would think that all seats must meet some kind of standards. In canada, its the CSA, canadian standards association, I mean they do all kinds of tests and **** on all kinds of products to make sure that they are safe.

Theres no way that car seats would be sold if they didn't go some kind of QC control and testing, along with meeting a particular standard in that country. So buying these seats, I think is going to be fine, cause im sure that they have been tested thoroughly.
Plus, I doubt that they're any more unsafe than stock seats for the car....

Ocelot

I dunno, on the ebay site it doesn't say anything about meeting any standards. My main question is, will they be worse or better than the stock seats?

BlaCkPlaGUE

Are these the seats that look substantially better than the real ones?

maverick2.0

Ok lets break it down...When you get rear ended everything that is loose or not loose trys to go to the point of impact, in this case the *** end of your car. So if the back of the seat "fails" well i think you know where its going. At least for the few seconds everything is white or black which ever color you see. In any case always remember keep you most dangerous object put somewhere safe cause if you get t-boned in the driver side for instance (again remember everything goes to the point of impact) then you dont want anything flying at you with all the glass and everything else that is going to go at you. I dont know much about the seats but im with some of the others here, save your money and get something that is an actual product and not a knockoff/ripoff and ya i know not all the replicas are rips but most are. Neways hope it helps answer your question there and if anyone has anything to add feel free.

Ocelot

These are the ones I found:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

goku8499

just and off topic coment but i really like ocelots thing there the "Surgeon General say's it's okay to smoke V8's" thing

Ocelot

Well what i'm mostly trying to grasp is that, just because its a knockoff, and may be less comfortable and not made with leather or something, does that mean the pieces that count are going to be dramatically less safe? I don't really mind if they are skipping corners or material types and stuff for comfort, but if its all just the same stuff holding the bottom and part together as any other seat, then I don't see the big deal. Mainly I want to know again, are these seats worse than a stock one would be in case of an accident like described?

RETed

Oh dude, you're really ignorant on how these bitches do business.
I'm appalled that these ******* are selling "Bride" seats which they claim to be authentic.
You ever seen how much a real Bride seat costs???
They cost at least $500 EACH.
Some of the top Bride seats go for over $1,000 EACH.
The eBay ******* are selling "their Bride" seats for under $200 EACH.
Doesn't a red flag go flying right about now???

These shady manufacturers use the disclainer "FOR RACE USE ONLY" to get them around safety standards (DOT for US, TUV for Germany and most of Europe).
This plants the safety issue on race sanctioning bodies doing the racing.
SFI handles most of the race safety standards in the US.
FIA is international.
I put money these cheap *** eBay seats do not meet ANY of the above mentioned safety regulations.
Race seat safety testing is not cheap.
This is why most of the name-brand aftermarket seats are not cheap.

Personally, I would not anything less than a Spraco, MOMO, or Koenig in my cars.
How much is your safety worth to you?
Just like for helmets, I typically use Bell or Simpson when racing.
How much is your head worth to you in an accident?

I really don't want to hear about people getting hurt because of these cheap-*** products.
Please be careful folks...


-Ted

BlaCkPlaGUE

Just becuase it costs more, doesnt mean its any safer.

I bought an HJC helmet for far less than a shoei and it was dot and snell approved.

But yea, the seats are not safe, I think we can agree on this. I didn't know, and now I do.
thx

LizardFC

iTrader: (1)

I agree with Ted. I wouldn't trust Ebay knockoffs for something as important as seats; that's asking for it. You're putting yourself and passengers at risk with something like that.

Ocelot

So can anyone show me where these "other" seats are that are sub $300 and work just as well as any other good seat? I have yet to find any that don't look like they were pulled out of someones ***.

RETed

MOMO seats...
http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/racingseats.html
MOMO START - $260
MOMO T-Frame - $286

Sparco seats...
http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/sptuse.html
Sparco SPEED - $285

And that's just one website...
I'm sure you can find others with competitive prices.


-Ted

hondahater

iTrader: (2)

lol here you go guys, I was looking at this thread and ebay at the same time and found these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33701

shiftnmadkwik

the sparco "speed" and "sprint" seats are a bargain. sets on ebay go for cheap with sliders if you keep your eyes open

but yeah, safety equip is always worth the investment. good seats, harnesses, helmets, and neck donut. if you crash youll be glad you had them.

jon88se

You can also go with Corbeaus...FIA safe and cheaper than Momo or Sparco

jacobcartmill

iTrader: (6)

please do not ask reted for advice on purchasing an item that is "cheap" because this is the same response you'll get all day long. if it doesnt have an expensive name-brand on it, its not worth having.

neofreak

They aren't even knockoffs. They're some generic seat with Mazdaspeed stitched into the headrest.

Ocelot

Wouldn't that make it a knockoff?