this motor is really getting to me now !!!!!!!! I tried the atf in it to get it to start at least to give me enough compression to start !!! Also tried a mix of oil and ATF she sounds like its tryin but all she does is smoke out the pipes then floods really bad . I mean like gas drippin out the exhaust were the header meets the cat . I got the plugs out and Im gonna let her sit for a few days to dry it all out I hope it works then try again .
I live in a very heavily used residential area so pulling it will be very hard to do do to traffic . ANy help on this would be appreciated thanks to every one.

 

there is a problem...it shouldnt be flooding that bad...check and make sure the fuel hoses are placed correctly and not leaking..i dont think i've ever seen mine leak like that...man...injectors could be gone..i dont know..i wanna know what some of the pro's say about this one..

 

If you haven't, before you try starting it again, pull fuse, and crank engine with plugs out to expell excess fluid. Put fuse, clean/new plugs back, and try it again. There's probably too much fluid in the chambers.

 

not only that...but it seems like its extremely flooded...do an oil change after you get it running..

 

You can let it sit for a year and it will still be flooded (3 chambers). Do what turbonut said; but listen when you turn the starter for three distinct "whooshes" then switch to the other rotor and do it again. This will give you a quick compression test.

 

Would haveing the fuil lines wrong cause it to flood? How do you tell what line goes where? The one from the filter goes to the one closest to the oil filter or the the one farther away?

 

I would say its time for a push/pull start...If you keep stuffing ATF or oil into your motor, you are risking blowing a seal.

Rat

 

The line from the filter goes to the line that is FARTHEST away from the oil filter..

Rat

 

Put Pamolive in you're intake, this will clean your apex seals and remove carbon.

Get country fresh, it smells better.

Good Luck

 

Thats the FIRST time I have heard that...Are you serious? Does it work?

Rat

 

he has got to be kidding

 

Damn, now THAT's an interesting idea I'm with J-rat, pull the damn thing some how, if it's flooded like you say it is then there's little chance of getting it started now.

 

yeah Im gonna have to do that !! Im getting very pissed at this thing . you can hear it kinda muffled popping and smoke coming out the exhaust but then it floods. I got the plugs out now and put a mix of oil and ATF in it and turned it over to blow out the gas. Now Im gonna let it sit for a few days to dry out the cat and exhaust of gas . What is the easiest way to get the ATF or oil in the rotors its a bitch going through the spark plug holes . Im not sure I got enough in it do do anything .

 

Again, I say just pull it around and forget the ATF. If you can't get it to start, then there's something more than just some flooding going on. Maybe you have some stuck injectors?

 

I use a large syringe type pump, and put the AFT(*edit* DAMNIT I MEANT ATF!!) in the LOWER (leading) plug holes. If you want my opinion as of right now, STOP PUTTING STUFF IN IT!!!

You probably have enough gunk in there now to float the Titanic. You need to push start it.

Rat

 

I have NEVER heard of that BS before, and Palmolive is a DETERGENT!! You put that crap in your engine you will NEVER get that thing to fire...

All you would have is a really nice TII bubble machine.

Rat

 

LOL I will do that Rat thanks alot. Should I worrie about the flooding when pulling it or will the speed of it turning over faster blow it all out?

 

It wouldnt hurt to let it sit overnight, cranking it every so often (with the pump disabled and the gas pedal floored). Then put everything back together, make sure you have spark and all that good stuff (put the plugs in!! Dont forget the plugs!!). Put that bad-boy in first gear, and turn the key to the "on " position. NOT START!!! Then just have someone push/tow you around till it fires.

I went with a push, because once it fired, I was able to drive away from the push vehicle. Plus it was easier for the driver of the push vehicle to see my hand signals (like when I flipped him off cause he hit my bumper too hard..******* ).

If that doesnt start your motor, get back to me..

Rat

 

you got it man thanks. How fast would yo say to get up to before I dump th eclutch just to be safe ?

 

Push starting will almost always start a flooded car. However, there are acouple of things for you to check out:

your plugs might be and probably are fouled from being flooded with gas and atf. Expel all the excess from your engine then put in either some new or known good plugs and try.

be sur eyour battery has a strong charge, I use a jumper car when trying to start a car that is flooded or whatever. Keep in mind that cranking rpms play a LARGE role in building compression. COmpression increases exponentially with cranking rpm, which is why towing/pushing is such a good technique, because it spins the engine so rapidly that it builds very strong, and compression is KEY to starting an engine, just like fuel adn spark.

 

I didnt dump the clutch...I was in 1st gear the whole time. Its not what you think its like...You just let the clutch out, leave it in first, and enjoy the ride. Using the aforementioned hand signals, I was able to maintain the RPS at around 3500-4000. Plenty of spin to get that motor going. Eventually the motor will start to sputter and cough, once it does, KEEP IT RUNNING!! Let it get up to operating temps. DONT OVERHEAT IT!!!! If the needle starts heading for the bad side of town, shut it down.

Keep us up to date!

 

I damn thee!!!

 

bombstart that bitch!!

 

I damn thee 13b

 

Ok, I think it's quite obvious we're all waiting in anticipation for you to pull/push/drag that damn car around and give us the news. We're starting to act strange