is a conversion from non-abs to abs possible?
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Re: abs is better on wet surfaces
Originally posted by ahperformance
when going about 90-100mph, like i was on the wet road when i almost hit that gs, abs will perform better than threshold braking, which relies completely on the available traction to decelerate to a stop. on wet surfaces where traction is at a minimum, threshold will not perform as well as abs, especially when stopping hard from 100mph. i probably should just drive more conservatively on wet roads.
when going about 90-100mph, like i was on the wet road when i almost hit that gs, abs will perform better than threshold braking, which relies completely on the available traction to decelerate to a stop. on wet surfaces where traction is at a minimum, threshold will not perform as well as abs, especially when stopping hard from 100mph. i probably should just drive more conservatively on wet roads.
ABS equipped cars will always take a little bit longer to stop than non-abs cars.
It's much EASIER to get a shorter stopping distance on wet with ABS, simply because the traction threshold is sooo delicate. but if you can get it right, you can stop faster without abs.
The whole concept of abs is to remove the need for driver skill upon stopping, circumventing the stomp reflex, and preventing wheel lockup. While this is great for 99% of the pop, if you are even a little bit practised, you shouldnt realy need it.
The reason ABS results in longer braking distance is that it can only apply about 90% of braking force... since mechanically, it has to keep the brakes released a fraction of the time (it's pumping the brakes very quickly) to prevent lockup.
With a bit of practice, a regular driver can deliver more % of the braking force without ABS
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hey guys im not trying to say that abs is less safe than non-abs. all im saying id that abs will not always save your *** and that not having abs can-in isolated circumstances--be a good thing. ofcaoarse abs gives the majority of drivers more control during paniks stop, but control should not be considered identicaly with avbsolute stopping distance. abs can take longer to stop in certain circumstances-dont try to argue that. however the control it gives you can be a real asset in crummy conditions.
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The people talking about ABS's advantage as being able to stop in a straight line are kinda missing the bigger pircture.
ABS allows controled maneuvering of the vechicle with full breaks applied. With ABS a poor driver would be able to change the line they are running while braking hard.
I'm not even going to touch the debate on if it's good or not. I've never actualy driven a car with ABS while the ABS had to be used.. but I think I'm pretty good at threshold braking.
ABS allows controled maneuvering of the vechicle with full breaks applied. With ABS a poor driver would be able to change the line they are running while braking hard.
I'm not even going to touch the debate on if it's good or not. I've never actualy driven a car with ABS while the ABS had to be used.. but I think I'm pretty good at threshold braking.
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Oh and to answer the original question, it is possible.
You'd need new spindles/hubs from a car with ABS. You'd need the sensors, the computer for the ABS, the proportioning valve, ABS big ol metal spaghetti mess, hard lines from a ABS car...there's more I think...:o
You'd need new spindles/hubs from a car with ABS. You'd need the sensors, the computer for the ABS, the proportioning valve, ABS big ol metal spaghetti mess, hard lines from a ABS car...there's more I think...:o
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