Connected starter incorrectly now there's No power??
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Connected starter incorrectly now there's No power??
I thought I had followed the directions but when I went to hook up the battery it arced and the starter began spinning? I switched the wires on the starter and now there's no power in the car with the battery hooked up? I replaced the main fuse and nothing?? Any ideas?
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Do you have headlights? Brake lights? Any lights?
If you have those..........I'd say you toasted the pure black wire that leaves the engine bay fuse box and goes into the car to feed the ignition switch. There is a single wire connector about six inches below and inbd of the engine bay fuse box that connects the engine harness to the front harness to do what I just described. Look for a single wire connector toasted in that area.
If you have those..........I'd say you toasted the pure black wire that leaves the engine bay fuse box and goes into the car to feed the ignition switch. There is a single wire connector about six inches below and inbd of the engine bay fuse box that connects the engine harness to the front harness to do what I just described. Look for a single wire connector toasted in that area.
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I have the battery wired to the inner bolt of the starter( close to tranny) and the other cable on the outer bolt. I had it opposite but the starter began to spin and the battery arced badly??
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Your queston mark throws me off. I'll assume you meant to write those words and leave the question mark off at the end.
Ok. the battery has a negative cable. This cable terminates at the area of the starter but is not directly attached to the starter. It normally ges attached to the long bolt that attaches the starter to the transmission/engine. If not that long bolt then another bolt that attaches the engine to the transmission. That ground is the main ground for the battery.
So if that is attached good........then it seems the cable from the battery positve post to the engine bay fuse box is not attached good. There should be two cables on the positive post of the battery. One is smaller. That one goes to the front side of the engine bay fuse box and is held on with a 10mm size bolt. The bolt is located under a plastic flap on the front side of that engine bay fuse box.
So make sure that connection is good at the engine bay fuse box and double check that the positive battery cable is attached good at the battery and also that the negative battery cable is attached good.
IF I had a digital meter of any kind...........I'd pull one of the fuses in the engine bay fuse box and check for battery voltage where the fuse was in the box. Batt power indicates the cable from the batt to the engine bay fuse box is more or less ok.
I assume you have NO ELECTRICAL OUTPUT ANYWHERE IN THE CAR when writing the above. None. Zilch. nadda. zippity doo dah.
Ok. the battery has a negative cable. This cable terminates at the area of the starter but is not directly attached to the starter. It normally ges attached to the long bolt that attaches the starter to the transmission/engine. If not that long bolt then another bolt that attaches the engine to the transmission. That ground is the main ground for the battery.
So if that is attached good........then it seems the cable from the battery positve post to the engine bay fuse box is not attached good. There should be two cables on the positive post of the battery. One is smaller. That one goes to the front side of the engine bay fuse box and is held on with a 10mm size bolt. The bolt is located under a plastic flap on the front side of that engine bay fuse box.
So make sure that connection is good at the engine bay fuse box and double check that the positive battery cable is attached good at the battery and also that the negative battery cable is attached good.
IF I had a digital meter of any kind...........I'd pull one of the fuses in the engine bay fuse box and check for battery voltage where the fuse was in the box. Batt power indicates the cable from the batt to the engine bay fuse box is more or less ok.
I assume you have NO ELECTRICAL OUTPUT ANYWHERE IN THE CAR when writing the above. None. Zilch. nadda. zippity doo dah.
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Thanks. There is no power at all. A friend replaced my tranny, now if that ground is not connected then the starter would start to spin? So here's another question, the battery cable goes to the inner or outer bolt on the starter? I'm all screwed up!!!
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The batterys negative cable is a large diameter cable. It leaves the battery and goes to a bolt on the transmission. On the original configuration of the car, that cable went to the real long bolt that holds the starter on. It went to the fwd end on that long outboard bolt.
That said, it matters not if it goes to the starters long bolt or just to one of the other bolts that hold the transmission to the starter.
Where the negative cable DOES NOT GO, is to any connection on the starter solenoid.
The starter solenoid gets one large cable and that is the positive cable from the battery..
I'd almost guess you have the neg cable going to the starter solenoid but there's no way for me to tell from here. Does that large cable on the starter solenoid have a color like.....black with a yellow stripe on it???????
That said, it matters not if it goes to the starters long bolt or just to one of the other bolts that hold the transmission to the starter.
Where the negative cable DOES NOT GO, is to any connection on the starter solenoid.
The starter solenoid gets one large cable and that is the positive cable from the battery..
I'd almost guess you have the neg cable going to the starter solenoid but there's no way for me to tell from here. Does that large cable on the starter solenoid have a color like.....black with a yellow stripe on it???????
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The large black/yellow cable is the negative cable. It attaches to any large bolt on the engine/transmission (or the long outboard starter attach bolt.)
I think what happen is this. The positive cable was attached to the starter solenoid, but to the wrong attach point. There are two studs that it can fit to. Youall connected to the the wrong stud so when you reattached the cables at the battery..........the starter spun over. I'd expect that if that's what you did.
I think what happen is this. The positive cable was attached to the starter solenoid, but to the wrong attach point. There are two studs that it can fit to. Youall connected to the the wrong stud so when you reattached the cables at the battery..........the starter spun over. I'd expect that if that's what you did.
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Read my last post above.
Also trace the neg cable from your bin location to make sure it's not on the starter solenoid.
Relocation of the batt the bin makes it .........not possible for me to help you. I've no idea how it was done. LIke how the engine bay fuse box now gets power put to it's buss bar. I strongly suspect it ain't a gittin there............or the batt neg cable is not terminated to the engine/transmission.
Also trace the neg cable from your bin location to make sure it's not on the starter solenoid.
Relocation of the batt the bin makes it .........not possible for me to help you. I've no idea how it was done. LIke how the engine bay fuse box now gets power put to it's buss bar. I strongly suspect it ain't a gittin there............or the batt neg cable is not terminated to the engine/transmission.
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So, there's only 1 cable that is attached to the starter? I know there are 2 bolts, so the battery cable goes to the outer bolt and nothing to the inner? I'm pretty sure the cable is blk and yellow, I remember it has a metal tab on the end of the blk wire.
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Only one large cable attached to the starter SOLENOID. NOT black/yellow.
I forget which of the two studs the other large cable goes to .
I'd remove the black/yellow cable and temporarily attach it to another large bolt on the transmission or even the long outboard starter attach bolt. Then put the cables back on the battery (assumed you took both or at least one off prior to working on the starter), then go turn the headlights on. IF they light up..........yes you had the wrong large cable on the starter SOLENOID.
I forget which stud the positive cable goes on the starter solenoid. I KNOW in a way which one it does NOT go to. One of the studs has a cable on it and that cable goes into the guts of the starter itself. That is NOT the stud you want to put your positive cable to. Put it on the other of the two threaded studs.
I forget which of the two studs the other large cable goes to .
I'd remove the black/yellow cable and temporarily attach it to another large bolt on the transmission or even the long outboard starter attach bolt. Then put the cables back on the battery (assumed you took both or at least one off prior to working on the starter), then go turn the headlights on. IF they light up..........yes you had the wrong large cable on the starter SOLENOID.
I forget which stud the positive cable goes on the starter solenoid. I KNOW in a way which one it does NOT go to. One of the studs has a cable on it and that cable goes into the guts of the starter itself. That is NOT the stud you want to put your positive cable to. Put it on the other of the two threaded studs.
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Use the pic in post #40 of the following link as a reference pic. The wiring in this pic is wrong as explained by post #41.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...+wiring&page=2
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...+wiring&page=2
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Battery + to the outer most post on the solonoid the inner most post goes to the starter cable (,coming out of the starter) , the small wire goes to the spade connector on the solonoid .. The ground from the battery goes either to one of the starter mount bolts or one of the trans housing bolts There is never a ground wire going from any solonoid post .. That is bullshit . How do you guys think you feed power to one side of the solonoid and then ground the other????? smarten up !!! Now the man doesn't know what the **** to do ...
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Alright, I got everything wired up and there's power again. However now I cannot get starter to engage, no click or anything. What's the new issue?
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i lost track in here, but if you arced the battery real bad try a different battery.
I helped a neighbor jump start his car and he reversed it on me, day or so later my jeep acted up , could not figure it out turns out the battery had reversed polarity itself.
And this was with a old *** jeep that only had electronic ignition
I helped a neighbor jump start his car and he reversed it on me, day or so later my jeep acted up , could not figure it out turns out the battery had reversed polarity itself.
And this was with a old *** jeep that only had electronic ignition
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Check the wire on the solonoid spade connector for power with the key in the start position , trans in neutral there should be voltage, if there is no voltage then you have burnt fuze or relay. There should only be power to the spade connector with the key in the start position . if you can take a few pics so we can see what you are doing it would help ..
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I would like to THANK all that helped me out with my dilema!! I finally figured out the issue. It seems that i was under the car and not understanding instructions too well. I went to a buddy's house and crawled under his BEAUTIFUL MARIAH MODE 5 and saw I had the wires inverted. The wire that goes from the starter should be on the post closet to the wheel and the power should go onb the post closet to the tranny. This is how his is wired and I did the same, VOILA!!!! I am very happy once agian. Thanks to everyone!!!! Hey Francho, thanks!!!
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I had the wires inverted. The power goes on the post closest to the tranny and the starter wire goes to the post closest to the tire. Hope this helps.
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Right on.
I've just done a relocation and all I did was follow the wire from the fusebox to the starter, replace that one with 4G and run a 4G from there, to my new battery....
Course NOW I'm dealing with amp-loss.
I've just done a relocation and all I did was follow the wire from the fusebox to the starter, replace that one with 4G and run a 4G from there, to my new battery....
Course NOW I'm dealing with amp-loss.
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