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Comression Results (Cranks, but No Start)

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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:47 PM
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do the compression test correctly, the numbers you gave mean nothing for the most part.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Craze8
Lemon law only applies to new vechiles. Used, get a warranty of some sort from the dealer before driving away
False. It applies to new and used vehicles. Some states, dealers are required to sell a used vehicle with some sort of warranty for 90 days. I bought a used car in mass and they were required to. However, with 600,000 miles, the lemon law in your state probably does not apply.

I'd still shoot for it. Just claim that the dealer sold you a car with a blown engine. Or suck it up. I hope the car is at least a T2. Paying that much for a blown n/a would be a major loss.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Va is different then. You can be sold a car from a dealer as is where is with no implied warranty what so ever. Some places will give you a month or 1000 miles. Look at your paper work.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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for $2100 you should pursue legal action, unless the car has written documentation of repairs to keep it roadworthy a 600k mile FC is worth at most $1000 even if driveable unless the engine was replaced recently.

i have a feeling you might just want to go to the store and pick up some vaseline though, because most aren't going to sympathize with buying a car with that many miles... it's just common sense that a car is going to need a fair amount of attention with that kind of mileage, plain and simply you overpaid for it and it is quite possibly needing a new engine again. i would never recommend buying a high mileage car from a dealer unless the price is reasonable and you plan to have it restored, let alone one of the highest mileage 7's i've heard of.

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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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So I finally got my 7 started today! I had to clear out the cylinders from any coolant/gas that was left. Got some 10w30 oil, squirted some inside the spark plug holes. On my 2nd attempt it finally fired up.

Man, was it smoking out the tail pipe. I have never seen anything smoke that bad. It was like in a movie. Anyway for maybe 15 min it would smoke non stop, white color, with idle jumping up and down and engine shaking. After 20 min the smoke was gone and it was running normal again. I drove it around for an hour, freeway and city. Also in all that time the temperature never went above 1/2 mark.

The car drove great with good power. I did noticed that there was a small exhaust leak. After I turned it off I decided it would be a good time to check my compression while the engine is hot. I disconnected the crank sensor connector, had my brother crank the car while holding the gas pedal down. I did held the release valve down on the gauge. I got around 60 psi on both cyliders.

Anyway about the lemon law in Washington state... It only covers vehicles under 24,000 miles. I called the dealer and told him that the engine is fucked. And that it's going to have to be replaced or rebuilt. I told him if he does not want to help me financially I will get an attorney. He said he was sorry to hear that and let him think for couple of days.

Now that I know how to get it running, I'm thinking of taking it to a repair shop that specialize in rotaries and have them write me an estimate for engine repair.

So after all of this, since the car started after adding oil in combustion chamber, this means that it's going to need new apex seals? Would it be easier to just find a good engine and replace it completely.

Thanks for all the input guys!
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Realistically you won't know 100% of what it needs until you get it completely torn down and everything cleaned enough to measure. Count on spending more than a grand to have her solid again and that if it just needs seals and you don't have an iron with too much step wear or something.

I agree with Ben completely. I would have gotten a lawyer and then gone to the dealer who sold you the car.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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yep, won't know how bad it is until the engine is torn apart. with that kind of mileage and no documentation on the engine it might have well over 200k on this engine and basically just be scrap.

even if you do all the work yourself it would cost $1k+ to repair, at a shop you will be looking at $2200 at the very LEAST for the engine R+R and overhaul.
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