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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:10 AM
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comparing weight of rims and tires.

does anyone know the weight difference of a vert rim with 215/50/15 vs the s5 tii rims with 215/45/16? i want to know if there is a big weight difference, and if i should just stick with my vert rims and sell the tii rims or something.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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Well from the FAQ the TII wheels are 18lbs (no tire) and the vert wheels are 11lbs.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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yah but i'm not ure how much lighter a 45mm diameter wheel is vs 50
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by dreamnshadow
yah but i'm not ure how much lighter a 45mm diameter wheel is vs 50
i have NO idea what you mean by that. wheels come in different shapes and sizes, and therefore weights. what do you mean "a 45mm" versus "a 50mm." 'a' means ANY. are you wanting something specific??
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 01:37 AM
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he means the tires...
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by koukifc3s
he means the tires...
oh. now if wheel means tire, does tire mean wheel? oh man, i'm gonna have to make a graph.

"when did they change the meaning of 'for' to 'from'?"
"they sent out letters last week. it must have said 'for peter' so you thought it was from you and... you know, its easier to just call you stupid."
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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ok ok, i meant tires, geez sorry.
and 50mm diameter usually refers to tires.
why do we have to talk about this?

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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The "45" and "50" are not mm measurements.
They are called "aspect ratio" numbers and are percentages.


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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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oh wow, thanks for the info. didnt mean to mix up words tho, sorry casio. i dont wanna look like those typical kid FC owners now, sorry. anyways, do u guys know the difference in the weight of different size tires?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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heh, i was just messin with you. you had me very confused, though.
i believe the second number is the percent of the first number. (50% of 215; 45% of 215). the new Modified mag has "top 15 tuner tires." may wanna check out that article.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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Modified mag? never heard of that mag. anyways,
i'm guessin in comparison,
that the vert rim with a 215/50/15 tire is WAY lighter than a s5 tii rim with a 215/45/16 tire right? so i should stick with the vert rims?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 01:53 AM
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those numbers are confusing me. unless i'm wrong, the second number is the percentage of the first. so you have a wider tire on your vert wheel (6.5") than your T2 wheel (7").
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 01:55 AM
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modified mag is based out of new york, ny and canada.
www.modified.com i like the magazine. nice high quality paper, too.
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http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...ngSidewall.jsp

the 2nd # is the height of the sidewall
The vert wheels are probably still be lighter than the TII wheels.

sorry casio if i offended u, didnt intend to
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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haha, you didnt.
the chart shows the second number is the aspect ratio and the first number is the width. thats what i said when i said i was confused. he has:
6.5" wide vert rim: 215/50/15
7" wide t2 rim: 215/45/16
that would be a wider tire on the thinner wheel and thinner tire on wider wheel. was that a type-o?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 04:21 AM
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i thought that the second number is the height of the tires?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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vert rim: P215/50R15 87H
t2 rim: P215/45R16 87H

P = Passenger tire

first number (215) = width of the tire in mm

second number (50-45) = aspect ratio, its the section height on the sidewall. (107.5 mm tall)

R = Radial construction (B = bias, D = diagonal)

third number (15-16) = rim size in inches

You may also see a number after all that (87) = Load index (87 = 1201lbs, 90 = 1323lbs) Basically the higher the number, the more weight that tire is able to carry at its nominal inflation pressure.

last letter = tire maximum speed rating
N = 87 mph
P = 93 mph
Q = 99 mph
R = 106 mph
S = 112 mph
T = 118 mph
U = 124 mph
H = 130 mph
V = 149 mph

This is all basic car stuff. Please search, you may be surprised with what you find.

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