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Old 01-07-11, 11:01 PM
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Coil sparking off sides

I know what you are thinkg wtf is he talking about. So ill tell you today i put in my aem twin fire(before you say take it off its junk i dont care works fine for me.) But anyway I put it all on an started the car up an everything was working great. It was late an i didnt have a tach signal started reading an its cause you have to run the tach wire off the box to the stock tach off the trailing.

So got it all fixed an kept hearing like one of my plugs was off. Looked nothing an it smelt like in science class when you do the test with the spark an you can smell ozone lol. But yeah shut the light off an you could see little sparks jumping off the side of the trail coil to the body. I asked my dad whos a master electritian an he was like dont touch that you will get f'D up or it can kill you. N told me when that happens at work they use dielectric grease. it could be powering the coil so much it might not be able to handel it an it causing it to find a way to ground. So i put some on all over the coil. Fired it up agian same thing. It is sparking out the front where the boot goes on also. Just to clear that up. Has this ever happened to anyone. What can i do to fix it. Or am i prety muched f'd
Old 01-07-11, 11:11 PM
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check the plugs and wires on the offending coil the power has no where to go so it travels out and down the side to groung and he is right I wouldn't touch it either .Check that it might help you .. also wash the coil off with alcahol or something that wont leave a residue ( make sure you let it dry before any ignition power is applied ) .dielectric grease is intended to repel water stoping corrosion at contacts ,wire terminal plugs and electrical connections.. and still let electricity through without resistance .. It will however contain electricity from escaping to a certain point . check plug wires for resistance or swap wires and plugs with the other two and see what happens. have you had battery problems with spilled acid in that area because power likes nothing better than to follow a trail of sulphuric acid .. something to try
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Yeah tomorrow my dad said he is going to bring me home some wrap that will help. But what do you mean by check the offending coil for what. Also do you mean check the other trail coil. Im going to clean that stuff off tomorrow. Im just hoping i can figure this out i wanna test out this ignition.




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check the plugs and wires on the offending coil the power has no where to go so it travels out and down the side to groung and he is right I wouldn't touch it either .Check that it might help you .. also wash the coil off with alcahol or something that wont leave a residue ( make sure you let it dry before any ignition power is applied ) .dielectric grease is intended to repel water stoping corrosion at contacts ,wire terminal plugs and electrical connections.. and still let electricity through without resistance .. It will however contain electricity from escaping to a certain point . check plug wires for resistance or swap wires and plugs with the other two and see what happens. have you had battery problems with spilled acid in that area because power likes nothing better than to follow a trail of sulphuric acid .. something to try
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I mean check the plug wires and spark plugs on the coil that is giving problems .. The plug wire could have to much resistance so the spark has no where to go but down the side of the coil also if the spark plug is bad the same thing can happen .. The coil shouldn't need a wrap on it all you would be doing is putting a band aid on the problem ,,Check the plug wire for resistance the spark will follow the path of least resistance so if your wires and plugs are bad it will find another way to ground .. Better yet if the wires and plugs are getting old they should be replaced anyway so do that and I think you will find that everything goes back to normal .. This ignition system is high maintenance meaning the components break down much faster than regular piston applications \change your plugs and wires it no doubt needs it anyway ..you need extra good wires for the rotary application ,also make sure you have the proper plugs (also a must )... I cant remember what the resistance is for the wires per meter but you will find it if you do a search on it .. DON"T BUY CHEAP WIRES THEY WILL GIVE PROBLEMS LIKE YOU ARE HAVING .. I think you will find this to be the problem .. Good luck
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heres the thing this wasnt happening till i put the box on. the wires are maybe a year old there obx 10.5mm wires there a silicon wire they werent cheap i can say that much lol. ill still check them ill change the plugs also see what goes on.
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It's possible that you are producing more ignition coil power than before and the plugs and wires are overwelmed I don't know what else it could be ..you could always swap the plugs and wires from the leading to trailing and and see if the other coil gives you problems ..
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for right now im just going to set my trailing back to stock an tomorrow im going to call aem an see wtf cause this is lame. Maybe its a wiring issue or i have something else that is bad.
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so i havent had a chance to check the resistance on the plug wires as i dont know how. I really wanna figure this out cause even when its arcing like it is the idle is alot better an a better idle with a hbp is my dream hahahaha.
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so i havent had a chance to check the resistance on the plug wires as i dont know how
remove the plug wire form the car. set your DMM to resistance, that's the Ω symbol. place one probe on one end of the plug wire and the other probe on the other end. record the reading, and return the plug wire to the engine bay. remove the next plug wire and repeat the test.
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Remember that your body is a conductor too, so don't touch both leads or you'll be measuring your body's resistance in parallel.
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I've had this happen using an MSD CD box behind the stock coils. When I called MSD tech about the issue, the technician wasn't at all suprised that the coil couldn't handle the power. I guess there are some very good reasons why the stock coils can't handle a healthy CD box. Anyways, I went to MSD coils and had no further issues... and the car ran 1000 percent better afterwards. Was easier to tune as well, because the ignition could cut through very rich AFRs which it couldn't previously.
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yeah i called aem today an thats what he said that it might not beable to handle the power an it finding the thinist part of the coil or closest to ground an is grounding. so as of today i am just running my leading coil on the aem box. i did ask him if msd coils are compatible an he said yeah. so im going to buy two blaster coils an put them up there. do you have to run an ignitor on your msd coils? or is it just off the box


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I've had this happen using an MSD CD box behind the stock coils. When I called MSD tech about the issue, the technician wasn't at all suprised that the coil couldn't handle the power. I guess there are some very good reasons why the stock coils can't handle a healthy CD box. Anyways, I went to MSD coils and had no further issues... and the car ran 1000 percent better afterwards. Was easier to tune as well, because the ignition could cut through very rich AFRs which it couldn't previously.
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