Need some answers before i start the install. Car is a 90 gxl 5spd

What i wanted to do,
- Keep original theft system and integrate it to the clifford system
- Have the clifford system powered by its only source (an extra battery)

I wanted to know if i could set it up so that if one system loses power, it would signal to activate the other alarm (being that it is powered by a different source) and vise vera.

Also the clifford alarm is somewhat new so what feature will i be able to use? What features on the car is already available for me to hook up to the clifford alarm without having to purchase extra equipment?

Are the features on this link the only features available for me to hook up?
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...tail/1408.html
The link shows that the car does not have the door lock and unlock capabilities. does this mean i cant use remote lock with my power door locks?

Thanks in advance

 

So.... If you have to ask these questions, you probably shouldn't be doing an alarm install... Just my opinion. Do some more research on alarm systems and installs before you proceed with this.

The short answer is.. there's nothing you really have to do to install an after market alarm over the stock one.

The extra battery thing is a little dumb.. whats your reasoning behind it?

 

The question was if it was possible to integrate the old alarm with the new alarm and vis versa. Also i never asked how to install the alarm, just wanted to know all the features that was available on the car so that i can use my new alarm to its potential. As for the extra battery, if i were to integrate the two alarms, i would have the feature of two alarms working with each other for better protection. Say someone cuts the power in the engine bay, it wold set off the other alarm thats being powered in the compartment and vise versa. Ohhh and creating this thread is doing research, thanks.

 

If it has power doors, why not? I know of a LOT of russian cars that run an alarm system, with this feature, when they were originaly designed, and later mnufactured for periods of like, 20 years withought any factory alarm system.
The cars in particular, the LADA 2107, and the LADA 2208 (vosmerka)

Hell, some even have converted to power windows, that, when you press "lock" the windows roll up as part of the system. Pimp, aint it?

Anyway, point is, yes, iven if it didn't have power locks from the factory, you can still add this feature. Look into Mongoose alarm systems, this is what we use on our EDM Chevrolet Niva, and it's a pretty popular system.

 

??? Did anyone read and comprehend the opening thread post? WTF is with the forum now a days!!!

 

Yes. its possible.

You should have. You clearly don't know enough about it to be doing it.

You lost me.. how would that be better protection?
If somebody cuts the power in your engine bay, you've already failed at your alarm install.
No, its making the knowledge come to you.. Use the search button. Thats research. Use google... thats research.

I've installed a bunch of alarms.. well. maybe not a "bunch" but at least 8 or so systems. That's a bunch if you aren't a car-alarm installer professionally. hehe.
My take on alarm systems is.... they are a hoax. It will deter the honest thief, but if somebody wants your car and gets as far as disconnecting your power in your engine bay.. no secondary alarm is going to stop them. Rule of thumb with alarms is.... If somebody wants it bad enough, they will take it.. alarm or no alarm. The BEST security is having nothing to steal. Obviously with some of our cars being nicer and maybe having an audio system, that isn't as possible as we'd like.

The ideal security system for cars like ours in my opinion, is.....
*A stock looking car, nothing fancy screaming out "I'm expensive, take me!"
*The stock "Security" light flashing in the console
*A well installed alarm system+siren with "warn-away" enabled, but the actual alarm alert disabled.
*A remote pager system so that YOU know what has been compromised and when.
*A tazer, baseball bat, or other means of ******* up whoever is trying to get your ****.

I disable the alarm and/or crank down the sensitivity on the second level of security so far that nothing will set it off. Alarms nowadays are so useless. When people hear an alarm going off the first thing they think is "God dammit, I hate car alarms!". When was the last time you saw somebody rush over to your car to assist a possible crime-in-progress?

warn-away and pager alarms are the best feature in alarms nowadays. It doesn't bother people in quiet neighbourhoods, can alert you up to a MILE away (via the pager), and will scare off the common thief... prankster..... child standing too close to your precious.... or door dingers <-- my personal worse pet peeve.

Keyless entry will work over the top of the stock system. I think you DO have to disable the door lock switch in the door so that it doesn't send a "WTF, I'm being diddled!" signal to the stock alarm. But, a quick look at the FSM/Wiring diagrams will show you how/where all of the switches/sensors work.

 

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The whole point of integrating was to achieve the option of a back system. if you check the info on my alarm, it does everything you say i should do!!! Do you even know whats featured on the new alarm??? i bet not!!!!

 

Did you not see the last line of my last reply? I atleast helped you with the remote lock thing...

So.. maybe you aren't understanding that you'll have to install your own lock actuators?

But yeah.. name calling is good.. keep doing that. People really like that.

 

help???? you said THINK!!!! you THINK!!!! also my first post said without adding new equipment!!!

 

i think you found a friend!!

 

Listen twerp. Go open up the f'ing FSM. With 1000 posts, you should know that much.

 

Oh no. you said it too!

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=Alarm+install
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=Alarm+install
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=Alarm+install
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...=Alarm+install

Enjoy, twerp...

 

if you read any of those thread (like i did when i searched long before i started this thread) you would know that they do not answer **** for me. please just stop posting in here, thanks

 

The only unanswered question is how to use two alarms to protect each other!

So.. I'd say you are almost there!

I'm going to continue posting and trying to help you out since you have revealed to me that it annoys the **** out of you.

What else do you need help with? Seriously!

 

Don't you just love these kind of people, Micah?

 

You can purchase a backup battery for aftermarket alarms. DEI makes one. It is a little battery pack that is hidden under the dash and has an output trigger that trips the alarm if the power is ever abruptly cut from the unit (i.e. battery).

 

yes there are outputs on the clifford that will arm and disarm your manual system,
as the previous user said there is a battery supply available that will trip the alarm if bat term is cut

i think that pretty much everything on that system will work in the car, you may need some relays for certain things such as retained acc power and whatever, most other options should work ok
power door looks will work as long as your system has the circuit (it should) and you have door actuators, they are like 20 bucks at frys electronics, if you don't have one near you (a fry's) i can go buy them and ship em to ya, just pm me
you can also have the remote trunk pop if you have an electric pop already that is easy, if not it requires installing an actuator as well


if your car already has power locks you just have to hook it up, find the wire that triggers your system and integrate it, there is some cutting and splicing into the system i think, don't know put mine in aftermarket, if you have some knowledge of electrical schematics you shouldn't have to much trouble figuring out the setup, otherwise pm me maybe i can help you out
also study the FSM it has all the factory schematics you need

 

On the power-lock enabled cars, only the passenger door has the power actuator. Other cars don't even have that. No matter what you'll have to install atleast 1 aftermarket actuator.

 

darksider, several of your posts in this thread have crossed the line and are flaming. Any further flaming from you will result in a ban from this board for at least one week. Wake up, and realize that such behavior is not acceptable here.

Furthermore, for the most part micaheli is correct, when saying that you should have searched as this information has been covered countless times and that if you don't know, you are probably over your head. He is right there. Your attacking him, while he is trying to help you is just stupid.

For example you post:
Well that entirly depends on the back up battery that you have used. Some will trigger, some won't. If you don't know what you have you shouldn't be installing it.

You also asked:
well almost nothing comes with the factory alarm, so almost nothing stock would hook up without adding additional parts.

For example, if you wanted keyless entry/ remote controlled power locks, you would need to add a door lock actuator to the drivers door.

If you wanted light flash, you would have to wire that up as well, as the stock system only flashes the hazard lights (and if you are doing two systems, you wouldn't want any thing hooked up together, for example the starter kill, you want to add an additional starter kill, not use the stock one so that there are two things to bypass, when they are stealing the car).

and things like the remote start on the Clifford (and many other DEI products) shouldn't even be installed by someone that doesn't understand vehicle wiring. If you hook that up and fail to hook up the neutral safety you could kill someone or even yourself.

And things like the stock security light doesn't wire in because it is a different voltage than anything aftermarket.

So, again, if you don't even know what works on the stock system, don't be bashing someone else that is actually trying to help you.

Given the potential for major property damage or worse, and your posts in this thread it is highly recommended that you take the car and system to a professional installer.

 

Thanks Mark, but I do apologize if I talked down to him at any time. Sometimes I come across that way. Much like RETed. lol. At first, I wanted to help.. but at some point.. I just wanted to bug him.

 

sorry to those who were affected by my stupidness. thanks for the replies.

 

You're just jealous.


-Ted

 

Heck yes! I'm good.. but you are great...

I'm an aspiring RETed. lol

 

Now apologize in that other For Sale thread...bitch...


-Ted

 

No.