silverrotor

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I'm currently working on a replica of their version.

I'm ditching the K&N Filtercharger Kit with my Cold Air Box, In favour of this true cold version.

Whos taken a simular approach to this setup?

http://www.checkpointmotors.net/Prod...ail.asp?pID=39

Rxmfn7

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I will be attemting something similar shortly, using aluminum elbows from JC whitney. There was a thread a while ago where a few people did something similar, but used like dryer ducting, and it just didnt look that great IMO. Ill post pics when I get it done.

silverrotor

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Cool. I'll post some pics too...should look great with my new S5 Front/Rear.

NZConvertible

While that does look like a nice product, I have to doubt the engineering expertise of anyone who renames a piece of pipe a "Cold Air Charger" and then highly recommends "installing turbo secondary injectors on certain cars". $250 is also an obscene price for something that still requires you to cut up your car to fit. Silverrotor, I hope you can make one for considerably less than that.

silverrotor

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It'll cost me $125 can.

A word on the secondary TII Injectors. Chris @ Checkpoint claims that these Injectors should be used for s5's due to the VDI surge effect. S4's don't need them. Even If they did...thats what my S-AFC Is for.

NZConvertible

I think he needs to do a little more research. NA injectors can flow enough fuel for ~250hp, with or without VDI.

Rxmfn7

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While on this subject, does anyone know where I can get those connectors? (silicone?) They kinda look like intercooler couplers, so those may work. I have no idea where to find them though.....

Samps

Here's mine. The hose couplers are at Home Depot or LOWES. This cost me $4 for the hose coupler, $5 for the piece of pipe, and $20 for the matrix air filter. You need to cut about a 3 inch hole in the sheet metal, but it's pretty thin and relatively easy to cut.

Rxmfn7

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Looks great, I was thinking the same thing. Where did you get that pipe with the bend in it? Is that at lowes also?? Ill probably be running over there today, just want to know what to look for. Is it metal or ABS plastic?

Samps

I got it from LOWES. It was kinda hidden, but a little searching won't take long. And it's ABS. It actually was a grayish color but I sanded it down and painted it black. They had black pipes there, but none with the needed 30° bend. I forget the size of the coupler; either 2in or 2.5in, but they have lots of different sizes and they all come with the hose clamps already on them. A saber saw cut through the sheet metal like butter; honestly, it took about 2 minutes.

KiyoKix

I'm not losing my vision and I don't see an AFM in there...you got a haltech or wolf hiding in there? Very nicely done by the way...I've been looking at something like that for a while, but never knew where to get the piping and couplers.

Samps

I wish I had a Haltech! The AFM is still in its stock location. It sort of blends in now, but it is there just to the right of the pressure sensor.

Oh yeah; you will also need to fab up a bracket to hold the AFM steady. I just took a piece of aluminum and cut it to the right length then bended it so it formed to the fender. Then applied a thick coat of touch up paint.

KiyoKix

Nicely done...I forgot that's an S5 and I was looking for a different AFM . Hey it's all right to dream right. Thanks for the info .

Rxmfn7

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Kiyokix, the S5 had a different AFM type. I circled it in red for ya

jeremy1

HEY ANYONE THAT DOUBTS CHRIS AT CHECKPOINT ENGINEERING SHOULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT FIRST AND NOT JUST GAB ABOUT HOW CRAZY SOME IDEA IS. THAT GUY KNOWS HIS ****. I MET HIM AT LAGUNA SECA DURING THE ALMS EVENT. HE HAD BEEN ASKED TO PIT PETTIT'S RACE CAR. I DON'T THINK PETTIT WOULD JUST ASK ANYONE. YOU SHOULD SEE HIS ROTARY TRUX TOO. THEY ARE NUTS. HE HAS SEEN OVER 210 ON A DYNO WITH OUR 2ND GEN MOTORS. HE SWEARS BY WOLF.
HE CAN DO MY MOTOR ANY DAY. TOO BAD MY CAR RUNS SO DAMN GOOD.
SORRY BOUT THE CAPS.

silverrotor

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I heard It straight from the lip.

silverrotor

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Samps///What are your Impressions on It? Although your placement of the Air Filter Is not where I'd place It, I'd Imagine you are drawing In some denser air.

vmb

i dont care if he knows his zhit !
im not a sucka whos gonna pay 255.00 for a mandrel bend tube painted and a generic cone .....if you do buy it your either on crack or just plain stupid
thats my input !

silverrotor

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WORD

Evil Aviator

Both the "cold air" and ram air "charger" attributes were documented during testing, so IMO this is one of the few products which can actually back up the claims that its name implies.

The K&N FPIK intake kits sell for $200-300 USD, and the Apexi intake kits sell for $200-400 USD, so I think that $250 USD is reasonable, especially for a nice mandrel-bent intake. Obviously a home-built kit would be cheaper, but I think the Checkpoint kit is excellent for those without the skills, tooling, or desire to make their own kit.

It doesn't look difficult to install to me. What are your thoughts?

I don't consider K&N generic, and neither do thousands of successful race teams.

NZConvertible

Dude, don't shout.

I don't need to talk to Chris to know that throwing larger injectors into an NA with an air filter is totally unnecessary, and will only have negative effects unless a fuel controller is also used (which isn't mentioned on the website). This issue has been discussed at length here.

Instead of leaping blindly to someone's defense, have a think about the point being discussed first.

NZConvertible

It doesn't say "ram-air", just "charger". While I'm sure there's a small ram effect, that name still smacks of trying to drum up business by giving it a fancy sounding name. I don't think any of those prices are reasonable, but maybe that's just me. You'll need to cut steel to fit it. Plus I can't see exactly where it goes through but it looks like it might require the washer bottle to be relocated. Can anyone confirm?

silverrotor

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Just a hole In the sheet metal needs to be cut. Otherwise, everything remains In stock position.

Samps

This is what I would question. If your car is totally stock with AC, there is not much room for a 3 inch hole to be cut through the sheetmetal. The AC lines occupy almost all of the available room for the hole and the washer bottle and headlight block the easy routes. I can't really remember how everything looked when it was in there, but it was hard enough with all the extras removed. And where exactly does the AFM go? It doesn't look like they are supplying the extra hose couplers needed to install the AFM and you would also need to cut the nice pipe they give you. And how does that tube attach to the throttle body? I'm not trying to put this kit down for design, maybe just for price and description. Although I'm certainly no expert.

And I noticed a minimal increase in power at normal driving with my CAI. Where it really seems to make a difference is at highway speeds. What you can't see in my pic is the 4 inch black plastic tube I have ducted up from the grill.

vmb

wow a k7n filter ....i guess its really really high tech stuff !
is it made of titanium ,uranium ,or plain shitnozoid!
come on dude ! the design and craftmanship is not worth the tag the tube and K&N FILTER !

again you dont need to be a mechanical eng to make this !and if you need tools to hack up your car it would take the same tools to cut a mandrel tube !