eViLRotor

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I think they do.
A white, heavier version of a regular TII, with some badges, tints, and leather.

The majority of FC owners want a cheap, fast car. Hardly anyone reallys wants to pay a premium for an FC, AE or not.

Its collector value seems to be highly publisized around here, but until I actually see people line up and pay top dollar over a regular TII of equal quality, I have to agree with the 'other' Evil that its just hype.

Evil Aviator

I purchased my first new RX-7 in 1988, so I saw the 10AE in the showroom first hand. It is a great car, and I would have gotten one if I had the money (I was a college student at the time, and it's a miracle that I even managed the payments on my SE, lol). Anyway, I don't think that the car itself is hype, but rather the supposed collector value. I just want to make that distinction, because I really do like the 10AE.

As for your core assertion that the 10AE package is mostly aesthetics, I totally agree. This is why it is not worth much today, and likely will never be worth anything. Had Mazda added special performance mods, such as a supercharger, 3-rotor engine, ram air, or whatever, it would have a better chance of becoming a more valuable collector's item. If you think about it, most of the high-value collector cars sell for a lot of money due to performance items, not fancy paint jobs and badges. Hopefully Mazda will figure this out before the next anniversary model 5 years from now, assuming that the RX-7 still exists then.

n4ji

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Vomit!!!

J-Rat

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Are we going to go through this again?

The 10th AE is worth something. Maybe not as much as some of us think, but it is still worth more then a Plain Jane 88 TII. You disagree, and we have covered this ground before. If you want to continue the debate, by all means, my AIM or MSM handles are below.

Jarrett

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http://www.kbb.com/

AE_Racer

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who cares about the blue book, we're talking about to the right person, what an AE is worth...atleast I am

Evil Aviator

The US has a free market economy. Individuals are welcome to overpay for anything at any time. However, that does not in itself assign collector value to the 10AE, nor does wishful thinking.

ForsakenRX7

This arguement reminds me of when I went to look at a black 90 model GTU thats been sittin in these people's yard on the edge of town. It was in excellent condition as far as the body and interior go so I was curious as to why it was sitting. I talked to the lady that owned it and she told me,get this, she told me she was keeping it for it collectors value. I looked at her with a blank face and was like "you realize that those cars arent worth anything, and all your doing by letting it sit is ruining the motor?" she goes "oh no, its worth something I'm sure, its a mint condition sports car. It has a rotary engine, if you know what that is. they dont make those anymore." The dumb bitch didnt even realize I just pulled up in the same kinda car! Damn, what the hell is wrong with people!

Evil Aviator

With some it's ignorance, while with others it's a psychosis, and maybe a combination of both in some cases.

FCdemon

nastiest 10th anny EVER.

J-Rat

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KBB value for a TII 88 is$4,030, value for a 10th ANNI is $4,270.

So they are worth more..!!!!



Jarrett

steviep_

any thing would look good if it weren't ugly

Bukwild

thats gay

stinkfist

I'm glad you got the joke.

BTW. 2 years ago I payed $800 for a 10AE that had a couple of dents, bad seats and a turbo manifold leak. Drove it home, Pulled the engine,trans and seats. and sold the shell to someone for $200.

I rebuilt the motor with a street port and put the drive train in my 89 vert along with a front mount and a haltech.

Is my vert worth more because it has a 10AE motor in it?

The vert is white too. Maybe I should put some 10AE badges on it.

Mike

Mills

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Sounds awesome! Trying to find an s5 tII to do the swap with is a little harder...

eViLRotor

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Yeah, that is what I meant.

I initially wanted a pure stock AE as well, but soon realized that I also wanted tons of power.

An AE that is stripped and filled with aftermarket, then really just becomes a modded TII in terms of its 'collector value'

goblues24

didnt mazda (in japan) kinda step up the"anniversary" type thing when they did the spiritR? before discontinuing the fd? it was a little more robust wasnt it? better handling and stuff right? maybe they are getting a little clue...

i could be wrong cuz ive never actually seen one...just stumbled across a motorweek type segment on it. i only say this in retort to the previous statement..hoping mazda gets a clue about the current market and why people would pay more for a car..other than just its namesake, case in point the "anniversary" thing. cuz i agree..if you celebrate an anniversary..its not just a backyard bbq..its an all out party/event!! you dont show up with bud light instead of the usual busch beer, to your anniversary...you come with crystal, dom, a bottle of louis..etc... and such..unless you really dont care about the actual reason you are celebrating..then you just bring milwakees best. i really respect the idea of the ae..but hindsight says maybe mazda would have never dropped the us version due to a slow market..if they had come strong, and turned some heads, when they were representing the "anniversary" of an innovation..the rx7..had they put a 3 rotor or really brought something representative of what most of us enthusiasts really think the ae could've..and should've been, to the table..an actual celebration of what the everyday rx-7 was..a celebration of what it represented..unique performance..so in hindsight i kinda think they dropped the ball when they presented a pricey version of the s-4 tII with bells and whistles that dont really ring louder or whistle louder than the actual tII..they just polished the bells and whistles so they shined brighter and looked more appealing at the time...and... "at the time" is a big part of mazdas argument for doing it, i think...cuz back then people( the market) wanted shiny toys that were facetious and didnt do anything, other than carry a name that falsely represented it as being better than the normal tII..so the everyday dork with more money than you or i could feel better about himself cuz he spent more on a shinier version of what the working man already had....mazda knew that the market was just a bunch of terds that would pay more for lustre as opposed to performance...whereas now the rx7 enthusiast really appreciates the distinction of having a rotary powerplant over pistons cuz we all know the potential some 15 years later.......just my thoughts on what happened...not trying to stir up the pot..just expressing my individual position on the matter. oh yeah...the car looks ok on the outside but the color..well we all stand in agreement on that dont we...gagging as i sign off and reflect on the ugly blue waste of mazdas aniversary edition of what i love...the rx-7

mtl x7

ugh bad color... and the bomex is horrable...[cept the skirts look ok]
id take it for the engine only..but wouldnt buy the car....

Evil Aviator

Absolutely. They have more options, better quality paint, and they originally sold for more money. They just don't have any collector value right now.

I would have to look up the original prices to make a more accurate comparison, but it looks like the 10AE vs. TII Blue Book values are pretty close to their original selling price percentage difference.

CompuBob

anyone elce have a craving for McDonalds after seeing the engine bay?
I know I do

Dan H

Geez, repainted yellow, then sky blue. Yuck!

SirRX7

So everyone dogs the guy that basically only changed the color but you totally parted out an Ann. Ed. and thats OK?? All you really have to do is repaint this baby blue one back to it's normal white and its saved but the one you had is gone forever.

PureSephiroth

In Michigan 10 AE's generally sell for at least a grand more than what you could find for an 88 TII in equal condition. That has a lot to do with Michigan not having any TII's to begin with (for sale at least) and 10 AE's are incredibly rare around here.

rx7freddie

posted by i dont care but anyway.

The 10th AE is worth something. Maybe not as much as some of us think, but it is still worth more then a Plain Jane 88 TII.

no turbo 2 is a plain jane . just my thougths . i bet u have a honda or somethign and your just posting to **** people off . i wanna see some pics of your car .

stinkfist

Actually, it's being restored by the buyer. He's taking a good running T2 with a bad body and swapping all of the drive train in. He may be done by now. I haven't talked to him in a while.

If thats what you meant by "gone forever" then yes, My car is gone forever. In the hands of someone that will love it more than I did.

Mike