A cheap & often overlooked intake mod.
12-06-03, 08:08 AM
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A cheap & often overlooked intake mod.
Actually the factory intake is not that bad. I see many gripes about the "restrictive” intake.
I have looked over my 91, and assuming you have a good air cleaner, the two main restrictions are the AFM (which most of us are stuck with) and the HOOD PROP.
I have yet to see a post about the hood prop.
It stows DIRECTLY IN the intake path.
I removed the stock prop.
To hold the hood up I use an aluminum tube.
It stows in the groove behind the snorkel on the fan shroud.
It has been the first mod done on my last two 7's.
I have looked over my 91, and assuming you have a good air cleaner, the two main restrictions are the AFM (which most of us are stuck with) and the HOOD PROP.
I have yet to see a post about the hood prop.
It stows DIRECTLY IN the intake path.
I removed the stock prop.
To hold the hood up I use an aluminum tube.
It stows in the groove behind the snorkel on the fan shroud.
It has been the first mod done on my last two 7's.
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12-06-03, 08:16 AM
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It saves maybe a pound.
It big deal is the stock prop blocks about 20% of the stock intake path.
It's easy to overlook when the hood is up.
It big deal is the stock prop blocks about 20% of the stock intake path.
It's easy to overlook when the hood is up.
12-06-03, 09:58 AM
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Re: A cheap & often overlooked intake mod.
Originally posted by SureShot
Actually the factory intake is not that bad. I see many gripes about the "restrictive” intake.
I have looked over my 91, and assuming you have a good air cleaner, the two main restrictions are the AFM (which most of us are stuck with) and the HOOD PROP.
I have yet to see a post about the hood prop.
It stows DIRECTLY IN the intake path.
I removed the stock prop.
To hold the hood up I use an aluminum tube.
It stows in the groove behind the snorkel on the fan shroud.
It has been the first mod done on my last two 7's.
Actually the factory intake is not that bad. I see many gripes about the "restrictive” intake.
I have looked over my 91, and assuming you have a good air cleaner, the two main restrictions are the AFM (which most of us are stuck with) and the HOOD PROP.
I have yet to see a post about the hood prop.
It stows DIRECTLY IN the intake path.
I removed the stock prop.
To hold the hood up I use an aluminum tube.
It stows in the groove behind the snorkel on the fan shroud.
It has been the first mod done on my last two 7's.
-Chris
12-06-03, 12:05 PM
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I guess you could use a manometer or a magnahelic gauge to prove your theory. However, I would try to prove it. Placing the hose behind the area in question.
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12-06-03, 12:33 PM
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it is interesting, but how much of a difference does it really make? If it really was blocking 20% of the intake it should make a feelable... is that a word.... difference.
12-06-03, 01:16 PM
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Steps for getting more power.... via intake design
1. remove washer bottle assembly. Enlarge stock 1.5" hole to 3"
2. Buy a conical filter and adapter (s5 guys dont need adapter)
3. Build cold air box
4. Remove passenger side brake duck
5. Run a high quailty 3" tube from passenger brake duct inlet on bumper to your new cold air box.
Simple. Effective. Cheap power.
-Markus
1. remove washer bottle assembly. Enlarge stock 1.5" hole to 3"
2. Buy a conical filter and adapter (s5 guys dont need adapter)
3. Build cold air box
4. Remove passenger side brake duck
5. Run a high quailty 3" tube from passenger brake duct inlet on bumper to your new cold air box.
Simple. Effective. Cheap power.
-Markus
12-06-03, 01:17 PM
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If you really want to get technical Remove the coolant from flowing around your TB. This really..really helps. You may have some problems in colder area's IE: (Northern regions of america) When you first start you car in the morning (you'll have to help it idle to warm up)
Again. Simple. effective. Cheap power
-Markus
Again. Simple. effective. Cheap power
-Markus
12-06-03, 05:29 PM
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Just some info on the factory system from my experience:
Must agree that the factory intake system can't be that restrictive. I've cut holes the box, cut the top out of the box, and experienced virtually no change in boost or performance. '89TII Bonez DP, Bonez Hi Flow cat, original factory Y pipe and muffers. The car runs @ 7/7.5 lbs which is to be expected. Installed a reprogrammed ecu and out of the box it topped @ 11 lbs. If the factory intake system was that restrictive, I could have never pulled 11. The car has cold air via the factory system, emissions legal (cat and air pump), fairly quiet, and the boost right where I want it.
Must agree that the factory intake system can't be that restrictive. I've cut holes the box, cut the top out of the box, and experienced virtually no change in boost or performance. '89TII Bonez DP, Bonez Hi Flow cat, original factory Y pipe and muffers. The car runs @ 7/7.5 lbs which is to be expected. Installed a reprogrammed ecu and out of the box it topped @ 11 lbs. If the factory intake system was that restrictive, I could have never pulled 11. The car has cold air via the factory system, emissions legal (cat and air pump), fairly quiet, and the boost right where I want it.
12-06-03, 07:57 PM
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Re: Re: A cheap & often overlooked intake mod.
Originally posted by chris-reedtn
THis has to be some of the dumbest **** i have ever heard.
-Chris
THis has to be some of the dumbest **** i have ever heard.
-Chris
you know i could see if you said something like removeing something thats directley in the intake path(secondary throttle plates), or if you said something like honeing out the intake. but the hood prop?
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12-06-03, 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by SureShot
It saves maybe a pound.
It big deal is the stock prop blocks about 20% of the stock intake path.
It's easy to overlook when the hood is up.
It saves maybe a pound.
It big deal is the stock prop blocks about 20% of the stock intake path.
It's easy to overlook when the hood is up.
I salute your effort and question your math. 20%, NFW!
12-06-03, 08:56 PM
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in all honesty i dont think the prop rod does much, because the intake isnt really functioning like a ram air system, using just intake vacuum, its gonna pull air from whatever direction it can, around the rod, i could be wrong and you may pick up 30 whp but thats my humble opinion
12-06-03, 09:06 PM
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THis has to be some of the dumbest **** i have ever heard.
-Chris
-Chris
How did you do your calculations, that the little tiny 7/16-1/2" diameter hood prop is blocking 20% of your intake?
Ohh ****
you know your hood is block 11876% of your air flow
12-06-03, 11:35 PM
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I must agree that the hood prop would block nothing, the air would go around it with ease, and like someone said its not a ram air setup so its using vacuum to suck air in. This means that the air is just gonna get sucked all around the prop.
If you want a really good cold air intake setup then cut a hole in the sheet metal beside the Rad and re-route the intake into there. My buddy had that setup for his TII and this winter after a nice highway jont if you pulled over and felt the intake it was all stone cold and there was almost frost forming on the filter. Works like a charm.
later
-Justin
If you want a really good cold air intake setup then cut a hole in the sheet metal beside the Rad and re-route the intake into there. My buddy had that setup for his TII and this winter after a nice highway jont if you pulled over and felt the intake it was all stone cold and there was almost frost forming on the filter. Works like a charm.
later
-Justin
12-07-03, 07:42 PM
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I just logged back on & it looks like some people need a visual aid.
Pictures to come..
Until then the stock intake snorkle gets its cold air from the gap between the hood & the top of the radiator support brace.
That gap is 1-3/8" when the hood is down and the stock prop rod takes 5/16" of that.
Feel free to do the math.
Pictures to come..
Until then the stock intake snorkle gets its cold air from the gap between the hood & the top of the radiator support brace.
That gap is 1-3/8" when the hood is down and the stock prop rod takes 5/16" of that.
Feel free to do the math.
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Originally posted by Cory Simpson
But we're not cheap, we're just broke!
But we're not cheap, we're just broke!
