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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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i'm looking into getting a set of ceramic pads, front and rear for my 10AE. what do you guys think of using ceramic pads? what are some good brands that you guys would reccomend? the car is just a cruiser. i dont race it on the track in any way.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Ceramic is a great pad it is low to no dust (depending on what brand u get) will not gouge the rotors.

I recomend Centric Posi-quiet Ceramic pads... DONT USE AXXIS ceramic they are VERY dirty...

another recomendation would be the AXXIS organic pads again very clean not much noise if any...

the caramic pad I sell (centric) have a shim pack on the pads to so there will be no vibration or noise

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx713b
i'm looking into getting a set of ceramic pads, front and rear for my 10AE. what do you guys think of using ceramic pads? what are some good brands that you guys would reccomend? the car is just a cruiser. i dont race it on the track in any way.
I have used Ceramic pads on my 89 GTU for the last 3 years and love them. I have used PBR brand and am now using EBC Red Stuff and they are low dust and seem to last forever. I put the PBRs on the front before going up to Deals Gap and the 2005 DGRR and when I replaced them this past May they still had plenty of wear left in them and for most of that time this car was my daily driver. While running the Tail of the Dragon or taking laps up at Virginia Int'l Raceway I've not had a brake fading problem nor any over heating issues like I had with OEM pads prior to using ceramic pads.

Now I have Red Stuff on front and back and will only use the ceramic compounds. I recommend the PBR ceramics and EBC ceramics without hesitation since I have used them. I am also running EBC slotted and dimpled rotors on the front but still have OEM rotors on the rear. Your rotors, thickness, is especially critical to good braking so if you change pads make sure your rotors are in specs.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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GTUser, rotors are brand new all around. the front rotors are drilled rotors, but were on the car when i bought it with less than 1K on them, so i'll keep them until they crack. where are you getting your pads from?

SpooledupRacing, i got your pm and i'll consider your offer, as it sounds excellent!
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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GTUser, rotors are brand new all around. the front rotors are drilled rotors, but were on the car when i bought it with less than 1K on them, so i'll keep them until they crack. where are you getting your pads from?

SpooledupRacing, i got your pm and i'll consider your offer, as it sounds excellent!
For your information.
First let me say that Ceramic Pads are great!
However you should NOT use Ceramic Pads with DRILLED and/or SLOTTED ROTORS!
Mechanics and parts stores will say it is OK but DON'T believe them. Remember they are in the market to sell you brake jobs and new parts. The sooner they wear out, the more money they make and some of them just don't know the facts.
Ceramic pads and Slotted/Drilled rotors should NOT be used together.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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^^^^^^

that is not a 100% accuart statement..

drilled or slotted rotors with decrease the life of yoru pads REGARDLESS of what material they are...

the idea behind slotted and drilled rotors is cooling for better braking..

the idea behind ceramic pads is better feel, better braking low dust

how can u use one without the other.. why put 75.00 rotoros and 10.00 semi met pads.. u do understand that once the pads are worn u are supose to machine the rotors if u do not the pads will wear funny and u wont have a great braking system..

you take the good with the bad when it comes to brakes...
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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well, id personally just prefer regular rotors and the ceramic pads. the drilled rotors that are on the car are eating the pads up, evident by the gross amount of brake dust on teh wheels. i also have poor braking feel. i may just have to go in and put on all new rotors, ceramic pads, and stainless steel lines, with a complete flush of the brake fluid.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Posi quiets are good for around town driving, but I would avoid them for those who are aggressive on braking. Posi quiets tend to fade pretty quickly on every single car I have driven that use them. I have been using advics on the TII for the last 3 months and seem to work very well and have not been able to get them into fade. Akebono ProACT is also a great pad, but like the advics are expensive in comparison. I have also used axxis ultimate ceramics, like mentioned before they are very dirty and consume rotors quickly. For the price though, it is a very exceptional high performance pad.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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I can't find any listing for an Akebono ProACT, Raybestos, or Bendix Ceramic pad application. No local stores have a Ceramic pad listing for the FC or FD, which I find interesting because I'm able to get them for my Girlfriend's Accord...

Anyone have a part number for the Akebono? I'm a big fan of their pads.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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I recall reading that ceramic brakes can't handle repeated hard brakes during a drive. Any truth to that?
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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I recall reading that ceramic brakes can't handle repeated hard brakes during a drive. Any truth to that?
None.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Aside from the expense, I don't think there's a downfall to Ceramics.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Use HAWK Blue, it's all you'll need
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 05:12 AM
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too agressive for street applications. they chew through rotors and can be noisy as hell when driven on the street. i'm still in the market for a set of ceramic pads. seems to be a little tough to find.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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My bad, I meant HP PLUS, go to Mazdatrix.com they have info on all the pads they sell, I've used these and they are great for light track use and street use.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pele
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I can't find any listing for an Akebono ProACT, Raybestos, or Bendix Ceramic pad application. No local stores have a Ceramic pad listing for the FC or FD, which I find interesting because I'm able to get them for my Girlfriend's Accord...

Anyone have a part number for the Akebono? I'm a big fan of their pads.
Kragen/O'reily's carries Raybestos ceramic pads, but they're not available in-store.

Fronts: http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductD...pe=219&PTSet=A
Rears: http://shop.oreillyauto.com/productd...pe=220&PTSet=A

It's $104 for a set, but they are silent, create almost no dust, and brake well. I have them on my car right now, with new solid rotors I installed at the same time.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Kragen/O'reily's carries Raybestos ceramic pads, but they're not available in-store.

Fronts: http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductD...pe=219&PTSet=A
Rears: http://shop.oreillyauto.com/productd...pe=220&PTSet=A

It's $104 for a set, but they are silent, create almost no dust, and brake well. I have them on my car right now, with new solid rotors I installed at the same time.
Nice to know-I have used ceramic on all my cars for several years. I actually have that same pad on my wife's car-never thought about using them on the 7.

Have you had them at a track day or under some very heavy repeat braking to assess the fade?
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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^^^ Look at Hawk HP Plus pads, go to Mazdatrix.com cheaper and better. can be used for track and street.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Nice to know-I have used ceramic on all my cars for several years. I actually have that same pad on my wife's car-never thought about using them on the 7.

Have you had them at a track day or under some very heavy repeat braking to assess the fade?
My car only sees street driving, so I don't know how fade would be under repeated hard braking. But they do have a nice smooth engagement, and seem to stop very well. I've had them on for about 10,000 miles, and they've been very gentle on the rotors. I'm getting a very good wear pattern.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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^^^ Look at Hawk HP Plus pads, go to Mazdatrix.com cheaper and better. can be used for track and street.
Maybe you mean HPS? HP+ are dusty, noisy, nasty and more expensive than the raybestos pads. They have thier place, but that place is not on my daily driver.

HPS are roughly the same price as the Raybestos pads above, but you have to mailorder them. I know about Hawk pads. That's why I was asking details regarding the Raybestos.

I get the nomenclature confused too.
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