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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Cats on N/A FC question

Im not huge on FCs yet, but i had a question for you guys

How many cats are there on a N/A FCs, i think theres 2? and is both crucial for passing smog? or just the main one?

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Mine had 3 but you can pass with just a main one. You'll most likely need a new one.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Theres 2 pre cat's and a main cat!

Here in Cali if the ref knows you've removed the pre cats he'll fail you. But Ive never had that happen to me!
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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You can always just use a large metal pipe/rod and some elbow-grease on the inside of the pre-cats in order to pass visual inspection, but keep them from failing and free up some airflow
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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I hollowed out the 1st and 2nd precats. It passed cali smog with flying colors. 88 GXL 130k. To answer your ? FC N/A's have 3 cats.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Ive also passed without pre-cats.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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You should pass without the pre-cats. They shouldn't be doing anything when the main cat is at operating temperature.

The pre-cats get hot, and up to operating temperature very quickly due to their size and position. This reduces emissions created at and after startup. After a short period the main cat will fire off, and start functioning. Somewhere around this point the pre-cats become too hot to function properly, and you are basically running on just the main cat. This is why you will pass smog with the pre-cats gutted.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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the S4's have 3 cats while the S5's have 2.

I don't know about the ACTUAL numbers WITH only the pre-cat. The pre-cat is the "stock header" btw (in case there was a confusion)
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
the S4's have 3 cats while the S5's have 2.

I don't know about the ACTUAL numbers WITH only the pre-cat. The pre-cat is the "stock header" btw (in case there was a confusion)
Wrong the 2 pre cats are after the header and they bolt up to the header. This is of course on an s4.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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My stock S5 exhaust sure as heck looks like it's got 3 cats.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
My stock S5 exhaust sure as heck looks like it's got 3 cats.
On an S5 the middle section is essentially a straight pipe (my '89 was this way anyhow). The first section has some sort of mesh stuff in it that acts as a pre-cat. When I replaced the three sections from the manifold back to the y-pipe on my car (I used this Magnaflow combo), I found that the mesh stuff had come loose from the pre-cat and lodged against the front of the brick in the main cat.
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