carbon lock?
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carbon lock?
I currently have a 87 TII for sale, but if I get it running I will keep it. Basically the car has sat for a couple years with 140k on the clock. The previous owner said he never had any oil leaking and that it was a pretty solid engine. The day before I went over to the previous owner's house, he told me that he borrowed a battery charger and tried to turn it over. He said that it turned a couple times but didn't fire up cause he drained the gas tank a long time ago.
So...The next day I went over there with some premium gas, put a few gallons in and CLICK CLICK... Nothing...nada...zip....engine didn't even try to turn over. I've been reading a bit on here about carbon lock and I am wondering if this could be a possibility? I know that I'll need to get some carb cleaner and spray down the spark plug holes and leave it overnight. Also I know its a good idea to change the spark plugs. Then the next day use a crowbar to crank the flywheel the opposite way. This is where I get confused. 1) I have no idea where the flywheel is. 2) I don't know which way it turns with the engine running. PICS would help if you have em! I also heard something about putting it in gear and rocking the car back and forth for a while. Then trying to turn it over. Will this work?
The previous owner thought it was fuel injection problems, which I know isn't too much to fix but I don't have the cash readily available. If this is the actual problem then I'll drive it. I don't really want to sell it and have it parted out. I could have a lot of fun with this car. Thanks for the help ~Cody
So...The next day I went over there with some premium gas, put a few gallons in and CLICK CLICK... Nothing...nada...zip....engine didn't even try to turn over. I've been reading a bit on here about carbon lock and I am wondering if this could be a possibility? I know that I'll need to get some carb cleaner and spray down the spark plug holes and leave it overnight. Also I know its a good idea to change the spark plugs. Then the next day use a crowbar to crank the flywheel the opposite way. This is where I get confused. 1) I have no idea where the flywheel is. 2) I don't know which way it turns with the engine running. PICS would help if you have em! I also heard something about putting it in gear and rocking the car back and forth for a while. Then trying to turn it over. Will this work?
The previous owner thought it was fuel injection problems, which I know isn't too much to fix but I don't have the cash readily available. If this is the actual problem then I'll drive it. I don't really want to sell it and have it parted out. I could have a lot of fun with this car. Thanks for the help ~Cody
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Hi Cody,
1.) If you climb under the car where the engine meets the transmission there's a small cover plate held on by 2 or 3 bolts (at least on S5 TII). Renmove that and you can see the flywheel.
Other option is like stated above and remove starter.
2.) When in front of the car looking at the engine it turns clockwise.
If it's carbon lock the soaking and rocking it back and forth in gear may work. Unfortunately when mine had those symptoms is was because an apex seal had rolled out and gotten pinched between the rotor and the rotor housing. If this is the case and you get the engine to move you'll be damaging the housing and or apex seal.
Good luck,
zub
1.) If you climb under the car where the engine meets the transmission there's a small cover plate held on by 2 or 3 bolts (at least on S5 TII). Renmove that and you can see the flywheel.
Other option is like stated above and remove starter.
2.) When in front of the car looking at the engine it turns clockwise.
If it's carbon lock the soaking and rocking it back and forth in gear may work. Unfortunately when mine had those symptoms is was because an apex seal had rolled out and gotten pinched between the rotor and the rotor housing. If this is the case and you get the engine to move you'll be damaging the housing and or apex seal.
Good luck,
zub
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