carb legal headers?
10-30-06, 10:37 PM
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carb legal headers?
does anyone know of any ca. carb legal headers for my 86. i know of rb and corksport. but it doesnt say if they are carb legal.
10-31-06, 12:03 PM
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Directly from the Racing beat site:
No header will be carb leagal because by defenition they will remove at least one of the pre-cats which makes it illegal. While you can still pass emmissions with a header, you will never get there because it will fail the visual inspection.
Edit: I just read the detailed explination on the RB site and it said
Since all rx-7 headers remove at least one cat, they won't be exempt. I suspect that Pacesetter just slapped on "50 state legal" because some of their products are.
*Legal in California only for racing vehicles, which may never be used upon a highway.
Edit: I just read the detailed explination on the RB site and it said
Although a part may be advertised as "50 State Legal", this may be more of a marketing statement than reality. Unless an emissions sensitive part has been issued an Executive Order number by CARB, or an EPA exemption, the part is NOT legal for street use. Parts that are typically appointed CARB exemptions include: headers, air filter/intakes, turbo kits, and supercharger kits. Parts that are typically not eligible for a CARB exemption include, but are not limited to: OBD II replacement catalytic converters (as of early 2005, only a few 1997 and later OBD II catalytic converters have been granted an exemption), downpipes or headers that remove or relocate a catalytic converter, and performance carburetor kits. Contact the manufacturer of a product that you are considering purchasing for details regarding that specific component.
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10-31-06, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by snowball
WTF?
And I guess it is theoretically possible to have a carb legal header, but I've never seen one. From my understanding, it would have to be very short to connect up to the stock precats in order to pass the cert, and every one I've seen (never seen the mindtrain one though) has been much longer.
10-31-06, 07:10 PM
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I just learned about it because so many aftermarket parts mention it. That and the people on here asking about it. In fact I somehow came to the conclusion that he was asking about a CARB legal carb setup when I first saw the thread title. I guess its cause I'm still recovering from an illness and not thinking straight.
11-01-06, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideways7
CARB stands for California Air something Board. They regulate the emmissions equipemnt on cars in california. He was never actually asking about anything related to a carberator(sp) intake system.
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11-01-06, 01:18 AM
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They wouldn't technicly be legal, but if your clever, you can cover the header up pretty well. My GSLSE allways passed with a header, and it was allways test only. The worst case scenario, you have to pull the header off and replace it with your OEM manifold
11-01-06, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by stevej88na
People from outside of CA probably aren't familiar with CARB, and the lowercase carb usually means carburetor - just a misunderstanding as some have said.
The "carb", as opposed to "CARB" added to my confusion.
So to everyone from CA. jumping to conclusions...
