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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Car won't start - no spark (need help soon as possible)

I went out to start my car a few days ago and it wouldn't start. It was turning over fine, and all the electronics were working, so I didnt think it was the battery. I got it jumped just in case, and it didn't help. I ended up determining that none of the plugs were firing. Any ideas on what could cause this?
I'd prefer to get as many ideas as possible because the car is actually up at the hospital, which is about a 5 min drive away. My wife just had a baby on friday, and I was trying to go get her car so it would have A/C and such and it wouldnt start. Anyway, thanks in advance for the help.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideways7
I went out to start my car a few days ago and it wouldn't start. It was turning over fine, and all the electronics were working, so I didnt think it was the battery. I got it jumped just in case, and it didn't help. I ended up determining that none of the plugs were firing. Any ideas on what could cause this?
I'd prefer to get as many ideas as possible because the car is actually up at the hospital, which is about a 5 min drive away. My wife just had a baby on friday, and I was trying to go get her car so it would have A/C and such and it wouldnt start. Anyway, thanks in advance for the help.
did you try the egi fuses in the engine compartment?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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did you try the egi fuses in the engine compartment?
I didn't actually pull them out and check them. Is the only way to tell if theyre bad to pull them out and look at them, or do they pop out? I assume its in the fuse box under the hood and labled, right?

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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I had thought that it might be a fuse, but my father-in-law assured me it couldn't be a fuse and I didn't really want to contradict him, plus I was quite busy. I'll check it out tomorrow morning when I go up to see the baby again.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Well, the fuse looks ok as far as I can tell, but Ill go ahead and replace it just in case. I not gonna be able to get to it until after work, though.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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The only way to prove a fuse is good/bad is with a continuity test. Just looking can be misleading.

There are only a few causes of no ignition. Bad coils (unlikely), blown EGI fuse (likely), bad ECU (rare) or bad CAS (slightly less rare).
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Just to reitierate what Aaron said, I once had an EGI fuse that was blown, but it was a hairline crack.. that took me FOREVER to diagnose, 'cause I didn't do a continuity test.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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After the fuses,
next check the CAS connector.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Well, the fuses are all good. I just bought new fuses and its still doing the same thing. Sorry if its something obvious, but what and where is the CAS connector?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Duh, crank angle sensor, gotcha. How do you check that? Im not seeing it in the FSM at the moment and my haynes manual is at my house which is in a different city.
Also, theres an occasional clicking sound, if that helps.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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How did you test that there is no spark? I don't mean to be a pickle just want to double check to stop goose chases.

Despite evrything have you tryd a advanced unflooding? By pulling plugs out? Checking there burn carectoristics and crank to unflood without hte EGI IJN fuse in?

I will second the STAMP of Aarons Cakes posts of all posabilitys to cause no spark.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:32 AM
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i had the same problem before, two times,
first time it was my air flow meter, it came loose and it wwas off and i was not getting any fire at all
the second time it was my main relay right beside the coil.

so try that and maybe that will help
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
How did you test that there is no spark? I don't mean to be a pickle just want to double check to stop goose chases.

Despite evrything have you tryd a advanced unflooding? By pulling plugs out? Checking there burn carectoristics and crank to unflood without hte EGI IJN fuse in?

I will second the STAMP of Aarons Cakes posts of all posabilitys to cause no spark.
I pulled the plug wire and put a screwdriver in it, then held it close to the body to see if it arced.
I'm pretty sure its not flooded. Its acting differently from what I remember it doing when it used to flood. I have done the basic unlooding steps, just in case. I have a fuel pump kill switch, which basically does the same thing as pulling the egi fuse, and its still doing the same thing.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideways7
I pulled the plug wire and put a screwdriver in it, then held it close to the body to see if it arced.
I'm pretty sure its not flooded. Its acting differently from what I remember it doing when it used to flood. I have done the basic unlooding steps, just in case. I have a fuel pump kill switch, which basically does the same thing as pulling the egi fuse, and its still doing the same thing.
If you have compression and fuel, follow evrything Aaron Cake said.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Well, its turns out im just stupid. It was flooded the whole time. I had gone through the normal unflooding stuff, but I forgot to floor it. Once I did that it fired right up in a second or two. Thanks for all the help.
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