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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Car Not Starting Need Help

checked altinator it good
good starter had it checked
new solenod on starter
checked plugs they good
checked ignition coils they good
car wont start will crank but not fire i am at a loss i cant figure anything out any suggesitons
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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sounds like you lack fuel.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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but when i took of f the bottom plugs and cranked it fool came out
u think maybe not enough?
or maybe to much?
cause wiht bottom plugs out i saw flame come out
maybe not enought air?
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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How did this happen?
Was the car acting funny before this problem?
Did it run fine one day and the next day it wouldn't start?

If you start a cold rotory for 10 sec then shut if off and it sits- this will cause it to flood out or not start again.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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well we had a really bad seriuse of stormswhere i live and on my way home from work i had to drive throu a puddle to get home
it was try to go over tree try to go thruoght a puddle a jeep cheroke got stuck in or the other puddle i chose other puddle made it home fine but wont start back up
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Sounds like something came lose OR got wet.

Look under the car. Look for lose connections and check them all.
Maybe open the hood on a sunny day and let it dry out.

Be careful not to try and crank the motor to much. This could cause it to flood out.
Keep us posted. I'll try to help.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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tried all that even treid to clean rotor s by taking bottum plugs out and cranking it spray allot of gas and some water but still wont crank
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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try the de-flooding procedure. Maybe you just flooded it.
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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YO- i had the same problem about a week and a half ago...it was soo frustrating! like honestly i was ready to blow the car up, but instead I just read a lot and popped the hood praying for it to start on.

First- does your car have a fuel cut switch?

if so, cuz mine did, the next thing i did was flip it off. i changed the sparked plugs cuz mine were kind of black

then i held the gas all the way down with the fuel cut switch off and cranked it for about 2-3 seconds then flipped the switched on and VOILA of course a big cloud of white smoke came from the exhaust but from all my research i assuming i flooded the car.

now after drivin the car when im getting to cut the car off i let it sit for a minute and then hit the kill switch and let it die off.... it worked for me- keep us posted gud luk!
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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well turns out my starter was not cranking it fast enough so i got a new one. still nothing getting new plugs to see if that helps. cranking faster tho. i got white cloud after i put in new start but nothing after that. will try de-flooding after new plugs
ill let u know how it goes thanks guys
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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If your engine got wet, I bet its your plug wires... everytime my engines got wet and simultaneously something stopped working.. it always seemed to be the plug wires. Measure their resistance and replace if necessary. But.. there could be something else.. I'm just telling you what worked for me.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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what should the resistance on the wires be?
i was getting spark u think not enough spark?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Or not getting spark on ALL plugs... who knows...

I can't remember the resistance off hand... check the FSM...
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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ok will do thanks
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by micaheli
Or not getting spark on ALL plugs... who knows...

I can't remember the resistance off hand... check the FSM...



if i took the plugs out and tried starting do all have to have spark at the same time?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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No... they will be 180deg off... T1 and L1 should be damn near the same time (barely off),and T2 and L2 should be really close too.. but L1 and L2 or T1 and T2 should be 180deg off from one another...

Did you get the resistances from the plug wires?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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ya the resistance on all the plug wires was between 5-7ohms from the manual at rx7city.com it should be no more than 16ohms per meter. snd noe of the cables are over a meter. plus i put new plugs in still nothing. i checked the timing on the car and it was off by about 2mm. fixed it and still nothing so im so lost i have to have it running is the car i use to get to school. i want to giveup on it but then again i dont cause i know it is a classic and i want to keep it. just getting rough.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Try push starting it.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Try charging the battery or put in another fully charged battery.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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how do i push start it? can i tow it then drop the clucth? and turn the key?
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Just push start it as if the battery was dead.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Have some friends push the car. After it gets going just drop the clutch while your in 2nd gear. Try it a couple of times. Make sure your on pavement!!!!!

A friend of mine had a problem with his rx7. It just wouldn't start. We switched parts from my car and tried everything. After all this it wouldn't start so we gave up and had it towed to the dealer. All they did was hook it up to the battery charger. Charged the battery and it fired right up. They didn't even charge him anything. These rotarys can be stubborn sometimes.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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well i push started it and it fired up but there was a loud grinding niose coming from the engine. and if i let my foot off the gas it died instanly. is it possible to through a rotor? and would it be cheaper to just buy a new engine? i want to get a turbo one. but main concer is to get this one running
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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I had the same problem and after 3 long days, found out it was the little golden box next to the trail coil, it was only wrkng some of the times.
Good luck!!
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Try it again But Rev it up and keep it running.
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