`fknfc-7

Hey guys, i went to start up my car in the after noon, it started idle'd to 0.5 and died and after that i started cracking, sounded like it would turn over and didn't, so i assumed it was out of petrol, cause last night it was nearly empty, so i went to fill up and now it cranks viciously but doesn't start, i attempted to start about 10 times, keeps getting worse each time i try to start it.
the temp out side is pretty hot, but when i try to crank abit of smoke comes out of the exhaust.

`fknfc-7

anyone ?

`fknfc-7

no one at all ?

jjcobm

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Flood.

I know you haven't looked and probably are in desperate mode so I will save you and me some time:

http://rx7.com/techarticles_unfloodFC.html

Use motor oil instead of ATF.

`fknfc-7

thanks , yeah i was in a state of paranoia.
thanks brother !

jjcobm

iTrader: (18)

Did you get it running again?

Hazard15301

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+1 to flooding. I bet the "smoke" smells like gas. Because..... it is gas...

`fknfc-7

fkkkkkkkk i just did the tutorial each one, each time i crank it sounds like its dying.

i did the complex one, and now it just clicks, doesnt crank.. maybe the battery is dead..

`fknfc-7

sigh* this is killing me, can't get to work

Cordt

just posted this in another thread.



heres what i usually do when it floods so bad it washes all the oil out and you lose compression...

1- cut off fuel supply by pulling a relay or use a fuel cut switch if you have it.
2- remove spark plugs and crank it over a few times to blow the crap out (have some rags there so it doesnt soak wires/hoses/etc
3- clean spark plugs off with sandpaper and some solvent and blow them with compressed air to make sure theres no sand or anything left on them to get in the engine (very important!!)
4- reinstall bottom (leading) spark plugs, squirt 5CC of oil into each chamber in the trailing(top) hole, crank it over by hand a few times if you can to mix it around
5- squirt 5CC more into each chamber(top hole), then reinstall the plugs, undo whatever you did to disable fuel supply, floor the gas pedal and crank it over and it should start

make sure your battery is fully charged for this, and every time you crank it (if it takes more than one try) make sure you are cranking for at least 10 seconds with a 30 second cooldown in between attempts. not cranking for that long will just flood it worse and cranking for longer is not good for the starter.

texFCturboII

iTrader: (17)

Or push start it.

LunchboxCritter

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If your car is an S5 (89-91) charge your battery then, hold the gas pedal to the floor, crank for 10 sec., pause for 10-15 sec., crank for 10 sec., etc.

The pedal to the floor will cut the fuel, you'll hear it begin to start like it's choked. Release the gas pedal and fire it up. It's going to smoke alot when it starts up, don't worry about it.

For future reference if you must move your car a short distance (ie: move spots in your driveway), drive it around the block and let it warm up before parking it. They tend to flood when they run a short amount of time and are shut down.

Shun001

i always do a 2 minute start-up and cool-down cycle on my FC to help avoid multiple issues such as this and cooking my turbo.

jjcobm

iTrader: (18)

Your battery died. There's no way it will start now unless you push start (but again it is flooded so it may be tricky to push start) : )

`fknfc-7

Fk I think my starter might be gone , I've been cranking for 20 seconds , because the link told me too , but it didn't say what intervals , so I just crank an crank and crank . Hopefully I can get it working , without getting it towed to the mechanics

texFCturboII

iTrader: (17)

Have you tried PUSH STARTING IT? Get you and a buddy.... Put the car in neutral, you push and a buddy push the car, get it rolling good. Hop in, put the clutch in, put the car in first, key to "on" then release the clutch. It should start right up. I have NEVER NEVER EVER had a flooded rotary unable to start from a push.... Even with the freaking primary injectors not hooked up properly (busted connectors) the car started up.

If it doesn't run after that then your problems are larger than a flooded engine and you need to bw towed anyway.

If your starter turns the motor over, it isnt screwed....if its still cranking the starter is ok.

Next best option: DE-FLOOD THE MOTOR....

to do this there are several methods: You can pull the EGI comp fuse at the main fuse box in the engine bay and crank the car over as listed above... you can pull the plugs and put oil in the trailing plug holes after cranking and shooting any gas or whatnot out the side of the motor.... OR

You disconnect the fuel pump... this will guarantee that no more gas is injected and that any gas still in there is combusted.

After doing that, reconnect the fuel pump and start....There is a wire that runs along the driver side to the fuel pump from the dash. The best spot to catch it is beneath the driver side rear shock tower, pull the carpet back and you will see a 6 pin connector, pulling that kills the fuel pump. This may not work that smoothly and a switch that interrupts the circuit is ideal, allowing you to control this process from the cabin.

I hope that helps. Have fun down there.

Cordt

dude, do this. if this doesn't work your car has bigger issues than being flooded. plus its a hell of a lot easier than push starting, you get to check the condition of the plugs at the same time, and you can do it alone.

angeltiger

Did you get it running? Was it the starter or flooded?

zukskywalker

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Wait a minute. You started off by saying that you think you might have run out of gas. If so, you might have pulled the crud at the bottom of your gas tanks into the lines. Get your battery charged back up and check for petrol flow.