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Old 01-28-05, 10:30 AM
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Car floods on startup unless throttle is fully open

Let me give you some background on my situation. A few weeks ago while tackling a very large hill I felt an odd vibration. After getting home, the car sat for a few days. When I finally tried to start it up again, I had a very tough time. The car would flood out everytime I tried to start it. After starting the car, the idle was weak and felt like it wanted to stall. I eventually found that one of my spark plugs electrodes had snapped off. I corrected the problem plug but now I'm still having starting difficulties.
The car feels great on the highway, I can detect no loss of power. However, when I try to start the car, she will flood if I don't hold down the gas pedal. When the car does start, the idle is very weak. She idles where she should at about 850 but there is a definite miss or something, she is very close to stalling. Where would you guys look first? BTW, I am not pulling any codes and this is new, she used to start with a flick of the key.
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The same thing happened to both my fc's and i figured out it just needs less fuel on start up. so i found my ground for the fuel pump and put a toggle for it. basicly i turn the switch off while turning over with my foot off the pedal. then when she fires like normaly i flick the switch and she runs.
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It's more than just that though. The car will hold an idle at the appropriate level but it sounds like I have a miss. It wants to stall out if I let my foot off the throttle too quickly. At low RPMs the car has a subaru type sound and some reduction of power but after about 3k, she hums like normal. What are the symptoms of a bad primary injector? What are the symptoms of a bad coil?
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Oh yeah and for some reason my idle adjust screw on the throttle body no longer has any effect on the idle?
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I had a bad primary injector once, and the car ran somewhat like what you're describing. Ran real shitty in the low rpms, then suddenly when I got above 3000 it improved significantly. You can check the resistence of your primaries. I don't know what the specs are though.

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TPS Shot?
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I have checked the tps a few times but never with an analog, i'll check it with one of those just in case. As far as checking the injectors, would they show a different resistance if they were bad? I know I put in low impedence injectors so they are 2-3 ohms i believe. What would they show as if I had a bad one
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COMPRESSION test??

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Don't quote me on this, but I think the resistence goes down as the injector wears out. So, you would get closer to no impedience. I could be wrong in that, but if you look in the FSM, you'll find specs for the injectors and some reference about them being under that spec, etc then thow out.
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I eventually found that one of my spark plugs electrodes had snapped off.
How much was missing? Could that chunk have taken out a little piece of apex seal?

I would test compression first and foremost if I were you.
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