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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 09:46 AM
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Please read my direct reply to your quote on the first page. I directly ansered that question.
I have no clue how I missed that Glad to hear he's not involved with them. I'll probablly be buying one in January from you.

I had to cut the underside of my hood, so I guess I would have to do the same with this one... which is no big deal. Also, on your page, you have pics of the 13b-re mounted with your yellow motor mounts and it states that it is for a 20b as well and will clear the hood, but doesn't state if the 20b will clear. Has this been tested? If so, I'll probably pick up a set of your motor mounts as well.

Thanks man! Keep it up!
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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Man those are beautiful. Someone said that they were going to paint theirs. I was under the impression that it looks bad when you paint them. whats up with that?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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I have no clue how I missed that Glad to hear he's not involved with them. I'll probablly be buying one in January from you.

I had to cut the underside of my hood, so I guess I would have to do the same with this one... which is no big deal. Also, on your page, you have pics of the 13b-re mounted with your yellow motor mounts and it states that it is for a 20b as well and will clear the hood, but doesn't state if the 20b will clear. Has this been tested? If so, I'll probably pick up a set of your motor mounts as well.

Thanks man! Keep it up!
Ah we all miss things from time to time

The 13B-RE fits perfectly under the hood in an FC because of the fact that we hand fit and weld the mounts while they are in the car. We made up a jig for them, but for some reason they didn't fit the way we wanted, so they are hand made in the car with the RE leveled to ensure a perfect fit every time. We haven't test fit the 20b with them with the hood. Since front steering work and or sway bar work is usually needed for that conversion, we haven't checked the hood clearance with that application. I honestly forgot to talk with Craig (my partner and the maker of those mounts) to see about sending you a set to test out for us, but I will revisit that with him and drop you an email or PM about it if that is still ok with you.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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Man those are beautiful. Someone said that they were going to paint theirs. I was under the impression that it looks bad when you paint them. whats up with that?
Charles
It would look bad to paint raw CF, but CF under a gel coat when sanded like you would fiberglass or any other metal surface prior to painting, will look just fine when painted. You wouldn't be ble to tell it was CF until you lifted it up and it didn't weight anything
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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Ah we all miss things from time to time

The 13B-RE fits perfectly under the hood in an FC because of the fact that we hand fit and weld the mounts while they are in the car. We made up a jig for them, but for some reason they didn't fit the way we wanted, so they are hand made in the car with the RE leveled to ensure a perfect fit every time. We haven't test fit the 20b with them with the hood. Since front steering work and or sway bar work is usually needed for that conversion, we haven't checked the hood clearance with that application. I honestly forgot to talk with Craig (my partner and the maker of those mounts) to see about sending you a set to test out for us, but I will revisit that with him and drop you an email or PM about it if that is still ok with you.
I'm still up for doing that... it takes about 30 minutes to pull the motor. ANd I need to fix another oil leak anyhow... so, keep me in mind
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Anybody think about doing kevlar yet?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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I am sure that he could do that as well, since the fabric is pretty much the same to lay from what I understand (I'm no expert on that though) I can find out if you are seriously interested.

Will do Kurgan
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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Sad part is I'm broke until tax time, so I was just curious if it was thought about. Isn't kevlar more apt to bending/flexing without damaging as compared to fiberglass & cf?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:21 PM
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Like I said, I haven't a clue I will find out due to my curiousity now anyways.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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Well, just a thought I followed a thread a while back about kevlar fenders which sounded quite interesting, and they were pretty durable and they could take some abuse without dings/etc like the metal ones we have now do, and then they were comparing it to cf & fg, and it turned out to be lighter, by how much I don't know, but *shrug* something to look at
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:37 PM
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Yeah Kevlar is the lightest of FG Kev and CF. But it is also the weakest, they flex realyl bad. I think that you coudl make some awsome fenders/door panels out of kevlar/CF hybrid cloth (kevlar and GF wover together) with a layer of kevlar on top to make it scratch/dent resistant.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 01:56 AM
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Anyway to pay extra and get it clearcoated prior to shipping?
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 05:54 AM
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Anyway to pay extra and get it clearcoated prior to shipping?
does CF need clearcoat over it when its used for body parts? i'm not familiar with it.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 08:01 AM
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No we don't do clearcoating. Any local body shop near you will do it though.

It isn't required, but it will look just like a painted regular hood from a showroom if you do. I plan on doing mine real soon.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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No we don't do clearcoating. Any local body shop near you will do it though.

It isn't required, but it will look just like a painted regular hood from a showroom if you do. I plan on doing mine real soon.
Dave, I don't think you should leave. You're a cool cat with a lot of info. This forum NEEDS more moderators. Would you consider staying if they added more, possibly you?
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Actually, I tried three local bodyshops, none of which would clearcoat my previous CF hood.

Wouldn't it look bad after it was sanded? Plus they all insisted on using primer, which would obviously make a CF hood useless. =/
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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Plus they all insisted on using primer, which would obviously make a CF hood useless. =/
Unless you are getting it to save weight. I'll be painting mine to match my car when I get it. I don't like the CF hood / painted everything else look... personally.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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Unless you are getting it to save weight. I'll be painting mine to match my car when I get it. I don't like the CF hood / painted everything else look... personally.
Well, if it saved more than 13lbs I'd think about getting it as a performance mod, but for $500 it'd better be an appearance mod as well.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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how do I buy one
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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Anyway, here we are:

Stock Steel N/A hood - 53 lbs
Stock TII Aluminum hood - 36.50 lbs
Carbon Fiber TII hood - 23 lbs

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From Ted Koseki's previous post:
"1987 Turbo II stock aluminum hood: used, NO windshield spray nozzles or hoses, all underhood insulation and front rubber flaps attached, hood stripped (NO primer base) and repainted yellow = 29.20#"

Hmmm, does that mean your CF hood could be another 20% or 5lb lighter?
Awesome job btw!

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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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Wow, where to start

They can be clearcoated and they will look just like a factory gloss coating. I will show you guys when I get mine done here real quick.

As for sanding it, it is the same process that body shops use to prep cars for paint. They rough up the surface basically to make a better surface for the clearcoat to adhere to. The clear will fill any scratches, or other imperfections so you can't see them and the surface is totally smooth and can even be waxed just like paint. Buffed too if you feel inclined.

Neofreak, I would just call around more. Maybe hit up a more custom shop that does speciality work. Clearcoat should be treated like auto paint. If you pay Maaco $199 for a paint job, and you pay a BMW repair shop $3000 for the same paint job on another car, which would you say will look better when done? Same applies to clearcoat. I plan to spend a few bucks to really make my hood like a show quality hood.

Turbotwista, just check out the website for all the info you should need. Here is a link:

http://www.fc3s.org/cfhoods.html

ebay7, not sure. We weighed all of the hood a few different times to ensure accuracy, and the scale is a digital model. It would be nice though huh?

Kurgan, probably not. I think I would be too strict for the forum (as a moderator) anyway. That is probably why no one ever offered it to me LOL. I think that some of the things that are said, and just given warnings over are rediculous. But that is just my take. I just have too many things going on to have to go through the hundreds of daily posts in the FC section (which is really the only place I go) just to see what is really informative, and what is another "you car sucks" or "SEARCH" posts. I have a forum to run and watch, and I post to the email lists and some other venues. I just realized that my time was better spent focusing on the more car oriented people, not the mini lounge FC section

Like I said, I will drop in from time to time to see what is new, or what isn't. Someday maybe...

You guys always know where to find me.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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dave, your post count is 1024. US geeks understand the importance of that number... leave it there

1 KB and say goodbye
No more search this and **** your car posts
Keep up the work and get us some more awesome FC parts
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 01:41 AM
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That TII hood looks so good I am having a hard time deciding between it and a regular non scoop hood, i run a fmic. Would that be too ricey to run a stock TII hood on a FMIC TII car?

Damn You Dave!!! You make it too difficult, One option would suffice!!!!
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