Im in the process of rebuilding the motor on my 1990 gtu and i was wondering.....after i do all of the appropiate things like suspension and toe eliminators
will i have the power to hold a decent drift?

 

with dtss rear toe eliminator and some skill; yes.

 

Yes. 115hp Corollas can drift. It's not about power.

 

Looks like when i get every thing setup i will have to hit up all the "drift days" for practice.
I cant wait, thanks ladies/gents
People were telling me that i would have to get a turbo charged motor eventually to compete seriously in the future if i ever decided to.

 

I could drift the **** out of my vert with the stock motor and open diff. My buddies sr5 ae86 can drift and it only has 65hp.

 

blaaaaaaah

that's half true

more then likely you're car is going to have some major suspension modifications before you get to the point you need more power

just get those rear toe in eliminator bushings and have fun for now

 

ae86 is a crappy example to say.....i can drift with it. no crap it can drift...why else would they use it in d1? if u want an example....u can drift a damn civic if u want. u just have to know what u are doing and have skill.

 

Funny you say that
the reason i got my fc is because ive been "driftingI(powersliding turns) my civic for 3 years now, I can hang with most of the 240 guys here
im pretty good at it I can hold through some s turns and everything with it, but its getting too tedious to keep it up ..... cv joints on a sliding fwd car is hell to upkeep

constantly breaking every other month.... so i chose the fc...... i know it will be costly to maintain the upkeep
but im ready

 

Todd Ho, up in NorCal, is seriously good with an S5 NA. He was sliding with the speed and panache of the big boys..I really thought he had a Turbo swap or something. I saw the car later..and it was completely stock. Nothing changed at all. Not even DTSS elims.

Goes to show you, it's all about skill. Coming from FWD to RWD I think will take some time to adjust as the technique is completely different, and I'm sure you know this already. Cool to see people going from FWD to REAL drifting. My own opinion of course.

FC are pretty hard to slide, partly because the ultimate steering angle isn't quite as great as the 240sx series. There are kits to change this, you might want to look into them.

good luck.

 

Drifting is about weight transfer , not power.

You can use power to overcome your lack of skills though

 

thanks alot for the compliment
what are these kits you are talking about

yeah fwd drifting as a whole i felt was not nearly as fullfilling as the rwd drift i had seen coming up in the scene. there are some amazing fwd drifters that i hold much respect to. I just lucked out and was able to pick up my fc for 3OO$ ..... it dosnt run but i will rebuild the motor to turn it into a daily/drift/driver. I noticed alot of people in the past who ragged on me for fwd dritfing (powersliding). but as of recent ive noticed it has become more acceptable. and thats good
i cant wait to get my fc sideways on the road
ive been blessed with a few friends who drive fc's who are helping me. and who are going to help me learn the fc fwd dorifto technique. they actually are starting an fc drift crew that they are letting me join.

ive noticed generally rx7 drivers are nicer than most car owners

 

If you say a honda civic can drift then you have no idea what drifting is. Wheres all the hondas in D1? If you went to japan and started drifting a fwd car they would laugh at you. Pulling your ebrake and dragging your *** end through a turn is not drifting. I don't know if you've ever driven an 84' sr5 but the suspension is crap, the only thing it has is the 50/50 ratio.

 

I stand corrected
notice i said powersliding just for people like yourself
I figured one of you would come out
and there is a civic on the faulken drift team
get your facts together before you make an unwarranted attack

 

sigh...

first off SR5s are not ae86s... it's a totally different car.

it's not power sliding in a FWD car there is no power back there... it's just e-braking.

you're retarded.... e-braking is drifting too.



that said

congrats on the new car I hope you have fun with it. glad to see poeple are helping you out.

 

actually there are hondas in D1...just not civics. (RS*R S2000?)

 

the ff driver on the faulken team keisuke described it as powersliding
so thats what i call it

and thanks for the props on my new car

 

I'm sorry but an sr5 is an ae86. The sr5 part is just that it has a sohc carb'd engine. Sorry but it's the same car, just different drivetrain.

 

This is true. I was corrected at one point too. The proud owner pointed to the Vin number on his carbed SR5...it read AE86Jblah blah. Too many people watch initialD (including me). Ae85 was a Japanese market car apparently.

The kits I was referring to increase the steering angle of the Fc by relocating the tie rod attachment to the steering knuckle. Mazdatrix.com sells a (somewhat pricey) kit. There are others online, just that's the only one I remember off the top of my head. You can look and see what the kit consist of on their site.

And no, I don't consider e-braking, alone, drifting...whether it be on a FWD or RWD car. Sure, you may point out RWDers may ebrake to initiate or prolong the slide, but that's just it; holding the ebrake for the entire turn to force the rear end out doesn't count as drifiting. Works great for rallying though!

 

this thread is funny.

first of all, for a stock N/A FC, power should be fine as long as you don't have very grippy tires. it doesn't have a lot of power, so you aren't going to be able to hold long slides if you have really nice tire in back. however, a bit more power will make it easier. the thing though, is that if you learn with low power, then eventually when you upgrade to more power you will be better than if you had just started with a perfect setup car. learning with low power makes you a better driver, IMHO.

second of all, AE86's are hard cars to drift. if you get an ultra modified one with like 200hp and a serious suspension setup then sure, anyone can drift them. but otherwise they are not easy to slide. a lot of people that can slide high power S13's and S14's and stuff aren't going to be able to slide an AE86 as well.

third of all, you can drift FF cars.... falken has proved this now by making the first pro FF drift car(which is an EF civic, if noone has been paying attention). if you don't think its drifting, watch it in person, its quite amazing. its definetly not the same as drifting an FR car. oh, and you don't just have to use the e-brake to drift it.

 

Hmm...I could put McDonald's trays on the back of a Tc and drift all day long then. No e-brake required.

I agree with first and second of all. Just not third.

 

imm glad someone here is giving keisuke his due respect
he is amazing
you know he started with a economy model auto - civic hatch
he was drifting hachi roku's and what not before until he wrecked it and the civ was all he could afford

 

mwahahaha. mcdrifting. we did that in my friends oldsmobile. it was hilarious. damn trays shredded after a minute though.

 

don't even try bro....in the end you will get beat by a corolla.






























that's like asking if my dick can go inside a *****, you know, once i get it hard and get her wet......DUH!!!

 

No, the SR5 SOHC is a AE85, not an AE86.

An AE86 is a Corolla GT-S and has the DOHC.

Kinda like the 82 Celica GT was a RA62 and RA63, but the Celica GT-S was a RA64L Yet they all had Celica GT on the name plate.

The 6 and the 5 look an awlful alot alike on a 20 year old faded VIN plate.

 

Hey, I understand you know your stuff. But I saw a dead stock SR5 with AE86 on the VIN on all the locations. Not like the car coulda been stolen...who would steal an SR5 anyhow?