can a '91 turbo beat a '90 300ZX?
02-02-03, 05:15 PM
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300zx n/a?
the t2 would pull pretty good. Most n/a's run mid-low 15's stock. I normally see most t2's running low 15's as well but apparently everyone elses stock t2 runs high 14's stock so whatever. Then again with just a dp/mp and cone filter I was pulling 103 traps and running a very traction limited 13.8 so it's pretty easy to be running fast in our t2's. The average 300zxtt will run 14flat @ 99-100. So 300zxtt vs 91 t2 = not so good for the t2. Get a dp and mp on there and you'll be right there.
the t2 would pull pretty good. Most n/a's run mid-low 15's stock. I normally see most t2's running low 15's as well but apparently everyone elses stock t2 runs high 14's stock so whatever. Then again with just a dp/mp and cone filter I was pulling 103 traps and running a very traction limited 13.8 so it's pretty easy to be running fast in our t2's. The average 300zxtt will run 14flat @ 99-100. So 300zxtt vs 91 t2 = not so good for the t2. Get a dp and mp on there and you'll be right there.
02-02-03, 06:27 PM
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Stock NA FC is low 16's (16.2 - 16.5)
Stock TII FC is low 15's (15.0 - 15.3)
Your 91 TII will walk all over a 300zx NA so bad he will want to drive his car into a pole! (honestly!)
If he has a stock turbo 300zx, depending on year, either it will be close or he will wax you.
Stock TII FC is low 15's (15.0 - 15.3)
Your 91 TII will walk all over a 300zx NA so bad he will want to drive his car into a pole! (honestly!)
If he has a stock turbo 300zx, depending on year, either it will be close or he will wax you.
02-02-03, 06:49 PM
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hmm...with a k&n filter I help put on and a custom catback (with awful sounding dynomax mufflers) my friend ran a 14.8 with a 2.2 second 60' time. All stock I can easily see the 300zx n/a as a low 15 second car...
02-02-03, 07:10 PM
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Here are some 1/4 mile times for NA 300zx's I found:
85 300ZX NA = 16.4
87 300ZX NA = 16.5
89 300ZX NA = 15.5
90 300ZX NA = 15.5
91 300ZX NA = 15.9
So either way, your TII is going to beat him like a rag doll. Mid 15's - Low 16's is not a fast car.
300ZX is a great engine inside of a overweight car.
Here are some stock curb weights for some NA 300zx's:
88 NA = 3265 lbs
90 GS Coupe = 3313
90 GS Hatchback = 3219
92 Coupe = 3255
92 T-Roof 2+2 = 3369
92 T-Roof Cupe = 3305
94 'Vert Manual = 3446
94 'Vert Auto = 3475
As you can see, weight will range 3200-3450 lbs for the NA 300zx. The power of an NA 300zx is 165 - 225 at the engine depending on year.
85 300ZX NA = 16.4
87 300ZX NA = 16.5
89 300ZX NA = 15.5
90 300ZX NA = 15.5
91 300ZX NA = 15.9
So either way, your TII is going to beat him like a rag doll. Mid 15's - Low 16's is not a fast car.
300ZX is a great engine inside of a overweight car.
Here are some stock curb weights for some NA 300zx's:
88 NA = 3265 lbs
90 GS Coupe = 3313
90 GS Hatchback = 3219
92 Coupe = 3255
92 T-Roof 2+2 = 3369
92 T-Roof Cupe = 3305
94 'Vert Manual = 3446
94 'Vert Auto = 3475
As you can see, weight will range 3200-3450 lbs for the NA 300zx. The power of an NA 300zx is 165 - 225 at the engine depending on year.
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02-02-03, 08:46 PM
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i used to have a 1990 NA 300zx. pretty much the only way they comphensate for not having twinturbos is by putting a 4.10 rear end in the car. so its really not too slow for an NA. however if you have a 91 turbo you'll stomp him. if you had an NA FC, he'd stomp you.
if you have an s5 turbo, you should have no problem.
if you have an s5 turbo, you should have no problem.
02-02-03, 10:00 PM
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I ran a 94 z, but it was na, 2+2 ad automatic, i handed him his ***, he had exhaust and an intake filter, but he was sorry, he couldn't beat me off the haul or at all.
02-02-03, 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by gsracer
Ok just checking. It's going to be hard to convince me that z32 n/a's run high 15's when I saw one personally run 14.8@93 with a catback and a cone filter.
Ok just checking. It's going to be hard to convince me that z32 n/a's run high 15's when I saw one personally run 14.8@93 with a catback and a cone filter.
my 90 NA felt like a 15 second car, all i had was a cone filter. it was real fast in first and second gear then it was slow after that.
02-02-03, 10:50 PM
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I can believe you that he ran 14.8 on a good running NA with an exhaust and intake.
What year was his 300zx?
15.5 -> 14.8 seems like a reasonable gain on a 3.0L V6 with the mods you listed.
What year was his 300zx?
15.5 -> 14.8 seems like a reasonable gain on a 3.0L V6 with the mods you listed.
02-03-03, 03:51 PM
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1990 5 speed. First year of the z32.
a cone filter and a catback in my eyes is not going to drop .7 seconds off of a stock time. Maybe a couple tenths. Hell I even posted a race between me when I was all stock minus cone filter against him. We went from a 15 roll and I jumped 1/2 car and we stayed like that until shutting down at the bottom of fourth.
a cone filter and a catback in my eyes is not going to drop .7 seconds off of a stock time. Maybe a couple tenths. Hell I even posted a race between me when I was all stock minus cone filter against him. We went from a 15 roll and I jumped 1/2 car and we stayed like that until shutting down at the bottom of fourth.
02-03-03, 04:11 PM
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Re: i meant a twin turbo '90 ZX.....wouldnt that waste a '91 turbo fc
Originally posted by sex_in_the_rex
i meant a twin turbo '90 ZX.....wouldnt that waste a '91 turbo fc
.....?
i meant a twin turbo '90 ZX.....wouldnt that waste a '91 turbo fc
.....?
91 TII RX-7 = 15.20
91 TT 300zx = 14.10
Like others said, how good the driver is will be a huge factor in the race. Plus if there are any mods on the cars and condition of their engines.
02-03-03, 07:28 PM
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Re: Re: i meant a twin turbo '90 ZX.....wouldnt that waste a '91 turbo fc
Originally posted by Bridgeported
Yep. Here are stock times:
91 TII RX-7 = 15.20
91 TT 300zx = 14.10
Yep. Here are stock times:
91 TII RX-7 = 15.20
91 TT 300zx = 14.10
a 91TII will get to 13's with the intake and exhaust and stuff, but it takes a little more to get to the 12's
02-03-03, 08:21 PM
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Re: Re: Re: i meant a twin turbo '90 ZX.....wouldnt that waste a '91 turbo fc
Originally posted by jacobcartmill
yeah a 300zxTT can hit 12's with an ECU and boost controller.
a 91TII will get to 13's with the intake and exhaust and stuff, but it takes a little more to get to the 12's
yeah a 300zxTT can hit 12's with an ECU and boost controller.
a 91TII will get to 13's with the intake and exhaust and stuff, but it takes a little more to get to the 12's
He was asking stock-vs-stock, not about a 300zx with boost controller and ECU -vs- TII with intake and exhaust.