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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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That’s what I tried. I inserted a wire into the dingle green plug near the coil pack, and grounded the other end and tuned the car no (Not started) and the check engine light lit up went off for 2.75 sec then stayed on.

Would the trailing coil pack cause enough loss of power that would make it not rev fully, because it feels like threes not enough rpms.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Bought leading and trailling coil packs. When i get them ill post the results.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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come on man how many times do I have to tell you that you wont notice any power loss without the trailing coil. I hope you didn't pay much for it.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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I stumbled over them on the forums for 25 bucks and I need them anyway. I timed the coil packs, the trailing is dead might as well replace them.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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what do you mean timed the coil packs?

My guess is that the timing is off or your injectors are clogged.

also you really should be able to read the codes
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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I timed the coils with a timing gun. There was nothing coming from either t1 or t2. The leading 1 and 2 were fine.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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If you are getting spark on the leading coil and the timing is right your ignition is probably good. My guess is that you have some sort of fuel issue. I'm not sure how hard it is to do on an NA but you could pull the injectors and the rail give um some power and see how they are spraying.

Also not to bust your ***** but you misspelled amount in "Ammount sunk in"
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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also I cant remember if this was covered already, but are you sure there isn't a vacuum leak?
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Personally i would send your injectors out for cleaning, cost me $65. No matter if they work or not, getting them cleaned will help with power and will stop any flooding problems before they start. Well worth the $$.

Plus that will mean one less thing for you to worry about. Also change your fuel filter and pull the fuel pump and check it. My gas tank was so rusty that the sock clogged and the car would barely run.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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I have a new fuel filter and I should be doing that some soon. On the back right corner of the gas tank I believe I see a plug? Is that a gas tank plug or what?
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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If its what I'm thinking of, yes it is the drain.

If you look in the fsm they have a picture of the plug and a draining procedure.
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Yep, that is the gas tank drain plug, i have had to use it s few times with my car.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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I think its the timing, how would I check if that’s the problem.

Also I have no idea on how to fix it either. If someone could tell me more about it and what it dose that would be great!
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Simple, buy a cheap timing light and use it. Shine it on the crank pulley and see if the pin lines up with the timing marks.

If so then you are good, if not then you will need to turn the CAS until it lines up. You can try turing the CAS as is and see if it runs better in one place or another. just be sure to set the timing proper before doing any amount of real driving. you can get it real close though by ear.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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where is the crank angle sensor located?
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Well I have good news. I have new symptoms witch are:

1. after few seconds the tach dies. (Just put a working coil packs in)
2. if you ease into the gas it wont buck, but when you floor it bucks unless your over 3000 rpms
3. Adjusted timing and the idle is lower.


I’m considering sending the injectors out but id rather see if there’s anything thing i can do that might solve my problems a little bit faster and cheaper. So hit me with all your ideas
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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hey Ryan123, Looks good bro, I just bought a 91 Vert that looks very similar to yours. I paid 400, but mine has no radio and I had to slap some T2 wheels on it.

Also not running, I have yet to jump into that tho.
Good luck, keep up the hard work.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks. Do you have a build up thread for your vert? It’s nice to see someone with a 91 vert too. Good luck with it also
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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check my sig... so far just more of a "look what I brought home" thread LOL
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:09 AM
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I have a 89 convert as a parts car.. gimme an email if u still need parts
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Well im not really in the market for parts now but depending on how much they cost will determine how much I can buy atm. Ill send you an pm

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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Found the problem. I believe that the 91 used the double sensors for the tps. I was about the do the adjustment when I was just playing around with the throttle I saw that the little thing above it looked as if it should move. Sure enough I moved it and it reved to about 2k and it started bucking. So here is the picture of the problem (I don’t know what to call it)[IMG]<a href="http://s446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/Ryankoyou/?action=view&current=buckingproblem.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq187/Ryankoyou/buckingproblem.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>[/IMG]
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Anyway i adjusted the tps, now she putts at idle and she wont make it up the hill....

So im going to check all the grounds and work from there.
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