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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 12:29 AM
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Brake dust shields.Same size on 4 and 5 lug??

I am getting a GX with the 4 lug setup and of course converting it to 5 lug setup,4 pot front calipers..etc.
Now I did this swap before but that was 7 years ago!
Can I swap the Front and rear dust shields for the brakes?..Will the 4 lug shields fit the 5 lug setup?.( I think I may be missing front dust shields on the 5 lug spindles.)
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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No idea, sorry.

Relevant to your question however, I also have no idea what function the shields are supposed to fulfill and removed all four on my car.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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they are mainly to keep road water off the rotors in wet conditions, wet rotors give almost no braking.

for the dust shields i do not believe they are the same but i also am not 100% sure. considering the rotors and calipers are different as well as hubs i would have to say no.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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I was going to PM you about this Ben,but I know you would see this eventually.
Thanks for replying.
I will just let the thread play out,as I still have to get the car to the house...Car in one spot,parts in another!
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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I checked the parts fiche and came up with the following for S4s:

Rear

FB01-26-261B - This is evidently for either side and any model.

Front

FB01-33-260B Coupe, Normal or Hard Suspension, w/ or w/out ABS, Right Side
FB05-33-260B Convertible, Normal Suspension, Right Side

FB01-33-270B Coupe, Normal or Hard Suspension, w/ or w/out ABS, Left Side
FB05-33-270B Convertible, Normal Suspension, Left Side

Rears definitely interchange and the front do too. I have no idea why there is a different part number for convertibles. They have the same brakes as TIIs.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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guess i was wrong but considering the fitment isn't critical i suppose it makes sense.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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ohhhh!..I like this info!
Thanks guys!.That makes things easier!
Oh SHOOT!..I just remembered.The rear shield may need to be split to remove/put back on, because of the bearing assembly.I think I encountered that.It sits behind the bearing assembly and there is no way to take it off unless you cut a slit in it.(no problem though,I can do it).
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
they are mainly to keep road water off the rotors in wet conditions, wet rotors give almost no braking.
Motorcycles don't have 'em, are much more exposed and seem to work fine in the wet.
Granted, most bike rotors are drilled/slotted but still...
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by clokker
Motorcycles don't have 'em, are much more exposed and seem to work fine in the wet.
Granted, most bike rotors are drilled/slotted but still...
yeah, bike rotors are slotted all the way through to sling water off before it gets to the calipers. my KTM even went as far as having a humped edge rotor. braking on my bikes sucked also when i went through creeks and had to pump the brakes before going down anything that might kill me.

benefit bikes have is when going through deep water the tires push the water away from the brakes and bike, cars have 4 wheels where one wheel will push water onto the other 2 wheels on the opposite side.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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UPDATE: the spindles for 4 Lug and the Shields are THE SAME as the 5 lg setup..(except if you are going ABS).
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 02:34 PM
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they are not
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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[QUOTE=joeylyrech;11292368]They are not the same!I have a 4 lug nut 4 pot caliper 5 lug rotor hybrid and i had 2 install the brake dust shields from a 5 lug cause the 5 lug rotor is bigger and it was hitting the 4 lug shield.....Aaron cake has a similar setup and had 2 trim his shields 2 clear the rotors!
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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Ok..Then Mazda screwed up?
Part #: 4 lug spindle AND five lug spindle(NO ABS): FB01-33-021b(right) and FB01-33-031b(left)
Dust shield: 4 and 5 Lug: Part #FB-05-33-260B(Right)
#FB-05-33-270B(left)
Page 276 in Mazda Parts manual
Section Front axle and Brake mechanisms 3300A
I just did the swap ..the stuff fits..
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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I swear mine did not fit.......same issue that Aaron had and he ended up trimming his stuff and i used the 5 lug shields and not using the 4 lug stuff.DAM YOU MAZDA!
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by joeylyrech
I swear mine did not fit.......same issue that Aaron had and he ended up trimming his stuff and i used the 5 lug shields and not using the 4 lug stuff.DAM YOU MAZDA!
I checked the numbers.I did the swap,and when doing it I am looking at the shields,Saying: No way,they can fit the rotors"..But they did.
Mind you,even though the Part #'s are the same,I bent the shield back a bit as I heard a scratch or 2 when rotating the assembly,but it was a simple "adjustment"(tap,tap) and the outcome was GOOD.It covers the rotor well.
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