BIG RIMS on my S5 vert
03-22-06, 08:14 PM
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BIG RIMS on my S5 vert
I remembered that mustang rims fit on FC's so i was curious to see how my neighbors Saleen rims would fit on my car. They are 18X9's and the rear tires were wide as hell, 275's!!! Amazingly enough, they still fit!
03-22-06, 08:41 PM
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YEs i think that the actuall rims look good. This is funny because i was thinking of the same thing the other day for my s5 vert. However i believe that i am gonna go with the 17in stang wheels. To me the 18's lift the car a little too high and take away the stance of the original layout. ANd from the looks of it, your not gonna be able to lower too much with 18's and sacrifice the tires.
Then again i saw a few verts that were lowered 1in in the front and 2 in the back with the factory bbs's and they looked really nice too. So that will probably be my first choice.
At any rate, that is a beautiful s5. Its summer man. Drop that top!!!!
Then again i saw a few verts that were lowered 1in in the front and 2 in the back with the factory bbs's and they looked really nice too. So that will probably be my first choice.
At any rate, that is a beautiful s5. Its summer man. Drop that top!!!!
03-22-06, 08:48 PM
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To me the 18's lift the car a little too high and take away the stance of the original layout
03-22-06, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 90WhiteVrt
Ha, definitely! The car felt like it sat a good 2 inches higher and looked like it too. These rims are very heavy and have definitely effected the braking distance on my car as well.
If you had to the hp and the braking power to justify using those rims i'd say keep them.
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03-22-06, 11:16 PM
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I bet its slow as **** now, that much tire on that heavy/slow of a car?
It looks decent right now but it looks like they stick out to much, and the car definatly needs to be lowered.
It looks decent right now but it looks like they stick out to much, and the car definatly needs to be lowered.
03-23-06, 10:17 AM
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Yuck...Looks like crap...Makes the car look like a 4x4 that some high school kid threw 20's on
03-23-06, 10:45 AM
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yeah I have told people for years that the saleen, or any wheel made for a mustang fits these cars perfect and they are cheap and available eveywhere. But for some reason people think if it does not have a 30+ offset it won't fit. WRONG. Just use some black electrical tape on the cobra wheel caps and they will never be seen again.
03-23-06, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 90WhiteVrt
LOL, yeah I didnt expect wonderful things from the senior members of the forum.
... well half teasing half serious.
Personally I didnt like them that much. They DID stick out too much and the weight and height difference wasnt worth the appearence. I'm running my stock BBS 15's now and cant get enough of them
03-23-06, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
yeah I have told people for years that the saleen, or any wheel made for a mustang fits these cars perfect and they are cheap and available eveywhere.
Hell, I could get a 50ET offset 7" wheel to fit... doesn't mean the bearings or any of the suspension would be happy and that it would look good.
But if looks are all that matters, sure feel free to use a oversized stang wheel.
03-23-06, 11:56 AM
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Fitting and working well are two different things.
Hell, I could get a 50ET offset 7" wheel to fit... doesn't mean the bearings or any of the suspension would be happy and that it would look good.
But if looks are all that matters, sure feel free to use a oversized stang wheel.
Hell, I could get a 50ET offset 7" wheel to fit... doesn't mean the bearings or any of the suspension would be happy and that it would look good.
But if looks are all that matters, sure feel free to use a oversized stang wheel.
No its all about putting the rubber to the road. You can't sit here and honestly say that the 15x6.5 vert wheel holding a 225/50/15 will handle this cars weight into corners better that a 17 or 18x9 with a 275/35/17 or 18. Come on man
03-23-06, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bukwild
No its all about putting the rubber to the road. You can't sit here and honestly say that the 15x6.5 vert wheel holding a 225/50/15 will handle this cars weight into corners better that a 17 or 18x9 with a 275/35/17 or 18. Come on man
I am saying that the suspension will react much faster with a 11 lb wheel, than with a 25+lbs wheel.
Reacting faster means less likely to be upset going over rough roads or while cornering on less than perfect roads.
I am saying that the bearings, and bushings take a considerably high load and force when the incorrect offset is used.
I am saying that the bearings, ball joints, bushings and shocks take a considerably higher load when the extra weight of a radically oversized wheel is on. This means they all wear out faster... which means you will loose any grip advantage (imagined or not) when they are worn out.
And I am saying that a 18" wheel is oversized for the FC.
Go study a little on suspension design, and learn how suspensions are set up on modern vehicles. Learn how things like offset, tire foot print placement, and weight all effect how a vehicle handles. Then you and I can have an intelligent discussion on the merits of larger wheels.
And finally yes, ON A FC, I can make a 225 on a BBS wheel handle better than a 275 on a 18" wheel. It will be faster in a autoX situation, it will be faster in a road course with power levels within 100 HP of stock.
and I am not even bringing up the aerodynamic flaws of oversized wheels and tires... that could be a whole 'nother conversation.
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03-23-06, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
I am saying that the suspension will react much faster with a 11 lb wheel, than with a 25+lbs wheel.
Reacting faster means less likely to be upset going over rough roads or while cornering on less than perfect roads.
I am saying that the bearings, and bushings take a considerably high load and force when the incorrect offset is used.
I am saying that the bearings, ball joints, bushings and shocks take a considerably higher load when the extra weight of a radically oversized wheel is on. This means they all wear out faster... which means you will loose any grip advantage (imagined or not) when they are worn out.
And finally yes, ON A FC, I can make a 225 on a BBS wheel handle better than a 275 on a 18" wheel. It will be faster in a autoX situation, it will be faster in a road course with power levels within 100 HP of stock.
Reacting faster means less likely to be upset going over rough roads or while cornering on less than perfect roads.
I am saying that the bearings, and bushings take a considerably high load and force when the incorrect offset is used.
I am saying that the bearings, ball joints, bushings and shocks take a considerably higher load when the extra weight of a radically oversized wheel is on. This means they all wear out faster... which means you will loose any grip advantage (imagined or not) when they are worn out.
And finally yes, ON A FC, I can make a 225 on a BBS wheel handle better than a 275 on a 18" wheel. It will be faster in a autoX situation, it will be faster in a road course with power levels within 100 HP of stock.
In other words, smaller wheel/tire combos have less unsprung weight than their larger counterparts. Unsprung weight is considered the Holy Grail of suspension setups.
You can also get the car lower to the ground without compromising suspenion geometry.
In addition to the shocks increased ability and effectiveness to control the suspension over bumps from less linear inertia, smaller wheel/tire combos have dramatically less rotational inertia which benefit acceleration, braking (I know it is still acceleration) and mileage.
Because of these advantages, I'll be running smaller diameter wheels/tires when I track my car. I currently have 18's all the way around but will switch to 17's up front and 16's in the rear. The reason I'll have larger rims up front is to clear the brakes I'll eventually end up with and the fact that shorter sidewalls stretched on a rim up front help with turn in. In addition, taller sidewalls in the rear help with acceleration out of the corner. Furthermore, there are more tire choices for 16's in the width I'll need.
If it wasn't for the brake clearance and tire selection issues, I'd use 16's up front and 15's in the rear.
03-23-06, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
No you are not getting it. Rubber has nothing to do with it.
I am saying that the suspension will react much faster with a 11 lb wheel, than with a 25+lbs wheel.
Reacting faster means less likely to be upset going over rough roads or while cornering on less than perfect roads.
I am saying that the bearings, and bushings take a considerably high load and force when the incorrect offset is used.
I am saying that the bearings, ball joints, bushings and shocks take a considerably higher load when the extra weight of a radically oversized wheel is on. This means they all wear out faster... which means you will loose any grip advantage (imagined or not) when they are worn out.
And I am saying that a 18" wheel is oversized for the FC.
Go study a little on suspension design, and learn how suspensions are set up on modern vehicles. Learn how things like offset, tire foot print placement, and weight all effect how a vehicle handles. Then you and I can have an intelligent discussion on the merits of larger wheels.
And finally yes, ON A FC, I can make a 225 on a BBS wheel handle better than a 275 on a 18" wheel. It will be faster in a autoX situation, it will be faster in a road course with power levels within 100 HP of stock.
and I am not even bringing up the aerodynamic flaws of oversized wheels and tires... that could be a whole 'nother conversation.
I am saying that the suspension will react much faster with a 11 lb wheel, than with a 25+lbs wheel.
Reacting faster means less likely to be upset going over rough roads or while cornering on less than perfect roads.
I am saying that the bearings, and bushings take a considerably high load and force when the incorrect offset is used.
I am saying that the bearings, ball joints, bushings and shocks take a considerably higher load when the extra weight of a radically oversized wheel is on. This means they all wear out faster... which means you will loose any grip advantage (imagined or not) when they are worn out.
And I am saying that a 18" wheel is oversized for the FC.
Go study a little on suspension design, and learn how suspensions are set up on modern vehicles. Learn how things like offset, tire foot print placement, and weight all effect how a vehicle handles. Then you and I can have an intelligent discussion on the merits of larger wheels.
And finally yes, ON A FC, I can make a 225 on a BBS wheel handle better than a 275 on a 18" wheel. It will be faster in a autoX situation, it will be faster in a road course with power levels within 100 HP of stock.
and I am not even bringing up the aerodynamic flaws of oversized wheels and tires... that could be a whole 'nother conversation.
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