Best Seats and Seat belt replacement options?
10-14-10, 11:19 AM
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Best Seats and Seat belt replacement options?
So my driver seat and passenger seats are starting to tear around the edges and I hate my seat belt so bad. (just because every time I try to look back it locks into place)
And i was wondering what are some good aftermarket seats/ seat belts that are really safe. Thanks
And i was wondering what are some good aftermarket seats/ seat belts that are really safe. Thanks
10-15-10, 04:38 AM
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So my driver seat and passenger seats are starting to tear around the edges and I hate my seat belt so bad. (just because every time I try to look back it locks into place)
And i was wondering what are some good aftermarket seats/ seat belts that are really safe. Thanks
And i was wondering what are some good aftermarket seats/ seat belts that are really safe. Thanks
I would guess nothing bolts right in since FCs have weird seat rails on the passenger side.
What kind of seat? A fixed bucket? reclinable factory style seat? What are you using the car for?
Racing harness? three point? four point? five point?
You gotta narrow it down a bit that's why nobody reponded to your post.
10-15-10, 07:16 AM
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What kind of belts do you have now...S5 "mousetracks"?
Skidtron is correct, almost nothing is a bolt-in fit.
Driver side seat is pretty easy, passenger side is a bitch.
Fortunately, the FC has a relatively roomy floorpan, lots of seats will fit, you just need to either make or adapt your seattracks to fit.
I was running Corbeaus but recently swapped in a set of Honda Prelude seats which are far more comfy.
Skidtron is correct, almost nothing is a bolt-in fit.
Driver side seat is pretty easy, passenger side is a bitch.
Fortunately, the FC has a relatively roomy floorpan, lots of seats will fit, you just need to either make or adapt your seattracks to fit.
I was running Corbeaus but recently swapped in a set of Honda Prelude seats which are far more comfy.
10-17-10, 12:23 AM
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Well I want to have bucket seats with a 4 point harness but idk if thats ricer or not.
I did hear about the passenger side rail.
and also, if i do get a 4 point harness how safe would it be? and has anyone done a write up on how to install it? (yes i looked for other topics)
I did hear about the passenger side rail.
and also, if i do get a 4 point harness how safe would it be? and has anyone done a write up on how to install it? (yes i looked for other topics)
10-17-10, 06:36 PM
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http://www.schrothracing.com/main/Home
I have called, their product will work just fine in our cars(Fc3s s4 and s5).They cost a bit, but are legal on the streets.
As far as seats go, im still lookin into fitting seats from somthing else in my car so i cant help much there
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10-17-10, 07:47 PM
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If you read their website, the harness bolts to the best possible location in any car. the factory seat belt monuting points designed into the car. 
the factory location for mounting a seat belt is your best bet, those location's are designed to with stand AMAZING amounts of force and not break or buckle. I can vouch that some cages WILL destroy your car if you wreck, you will be safe, but the cage can cause bits of the car to warp or buckle around the cage. Also, the FC3S passenger compartment has some what of a roll cage built into it by design.
Please understand, i am NOT saying thet a rollcage is a bad idea, they work great at saving lives, how ever there are those roll cages out there that WILL destroy the car on impact leaving the driver safe to walk away. when picking a roll cage, spend as much money as you can thow at it, and look as deep into the person/company crafting this cage as YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT. how ever the harnesses i linked in my first post is one of the cheap AND safe options out there. be as picky as humanly possible when selecting these safty items and demand to see any paperwork proving quality and safty from ANY conpany selling safty equipment. best of luck
(the two top belts mounting depends on the style of belt you get, one of them is just a Y belt that mounts to the sholder belt mounting spot. they have a few diff design's so i cant cover all of it, their web site has a welth of info on then styles)
the factory location for mounting a seat belt is your best bet, those location's are designed to with stand AMAZING amounts of force and not break or buckle. I can vouch that some cages WILL destroy your car if you wreck, you will be safe, but the cage can cause bits of the car to warp or buckle around the cage. Also, the FC3S passenger compartment has some what of a roll cage built into it by design.Please understand, i am NOT saying thet a rollcage is a bad idea, they work great at saving lives, how ever there are those roll cages out there that WILL destroy the car on impact leaving the driver safe to walk away. when picking a roll cage, spend as much money as you can thow at it, and look as deep into the person/company crafting this cage as YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT. how ever the harnesses i linked in my first post is one of the cheap AND safe options out there. be as picky as humanly possible when selecting these safty items and demand to see any paperwork proving quality and safty from ANY conpany selling safty equipment. best of luck
(the two top belts mounting depends on the style of belt you get, one of them is just a Y belt that mounts to the sholder belt mounting spot. they have a few diff design's so i cant cover all of it, their web site has a welth of info on then styles)
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10-17-10, 09:27 PM
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Sorry if I have come off rude, But if you would read the site, they will show you pics of the mounting locations they use. "A pic is worth a thousand words". Also they would not be DoT approved if their product was a safty hazard.
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10-17-10, 10:00 PM
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Well I went to the website and it tells you almost nothing as to how its bolted in the car.
From what I gather around the web one strap is bolted to the OEM location for the female seat belt strap. Other then that I cannot fathom how it connects to any other OEM seatbelt location. There are some FIA approved belts but they don't say if those ones can also be attached without a harness bar.
Edit: I read the instructions on how to install them in a WRX. The shoulder bars attach to the rear seat seatbelt mounting points. Apparently the WRX has a factory mounting point for the lap belt on the left side of the driver and a pre cut hole in the carpet for it to be a clean install.
Clever setup if you track your DD sedan. Where does the shoulder harness attach to in teh 7? The would be rear seat mounting points? Would you have to intal rear seats just to run these?
From what I gather around the web one strap is bolted to the OEM location for the female seat belt strap. Other then that I cannot fathom how it connects to any other OEM seatbelt location. There are some FIA approved belts but they don't say if those ones can also be attached without a harness bar.
Edit: I read the instructions on how to install them in a WRX. The shoulder bars attach to the rear seat seatbelt mounting points. Apparently the WRX has a factory mounting point for the lap belt on the left side of the driver and a pre cut hole in the carpet for it to be a clean install.
Clever setup if you track your DD sedan. Where does the shoulder harness attach to in teh 7? The would be rear seat mounting points? Would you have to intal rear seats just to run these?
10-17-10, 10:53 PM
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I sent them an email or two asking about their seat belts, and they asked me to call and speak with some one to answer my fitment questons, its pretty complicated stuff, there are lots of options and such. this is not somthing you just buy at random and throw in your car, if you would like to know more details about them i urge you to call them, i see they have added some new belt designs sense i last was there, and as a side note, you can use there belts with a roll cage aswell, its extremly versital. sorry but i could only relay so much info, you could make an entire thread about their products
i would love to see other belt set-ups. but these seem to be one of the best bets so far. best of luck!
i would love to see other belt set-ups. but these seem to be one of the best bets so far. best of luck!
10-18-10, 08:14 AM
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Here is the Install Instructions for a BMW for those who need a pic to better understand.......http://www.schrothracing.com/sdocs/Q...structions.pdf
10-18-10, 08:28 AM
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Hey Clokker let me help you with your Visualizing some since I just found the install instructions under media. You attach the shoulder belts to the lap belt mounting points for the back seats in most cars. Now that means you must keep OEM belts for when you have people in the the back.
I have always been under the impression that shoulder belts are best fastened at shoulder level (within 10-15° of horizontal, at worst).
These appear to mount much lower than that.
This just gets better and better......
10-18-10, 10:56 PM
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Installing a 4-point harness without some roll support is, IMO, asking for death. If you roll the car, the 4-point will keep your body firmly upright while the roof caves in and crushes your neck.
10-19-10, 05:15 PM
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wow. just wow. If the way they are making/mounting their seat belts is a danger in anyway,Then why are they DOT approved?In my opinon DOT know's more about safty than anyone who has chimed in on this thread..otherwise they would not be the dot and EVERY auto maker that sells product in America would not have to follow their rules... just a thought. But hey, I could be wrong and some youngsters on the net know more about auto safty and how to save lives. Just a thought. On a side note, how many seat belts used on the track, with a cage, are legal on the street? How many are DoT approved?
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10-19-10, 05:56 PM
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Are you eyes broken? READ THE DAMN SITE! and study up on CURRENT DOT standerds. THEN post your nonsence.
10-19-10, 05:57 PM
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wow. just wow. If the way they are making/mounting their seat belts is a danger in anyway,Then why are they DOT approved?In my opinon DOT know's more about safty than anyone who has chimed in on this thread..otherwise they would not be the dot and EVERY auto maker that sells product in America would not have to follow their rules... just a thought. But hey, I could be wrong and some youngsters on the net know more about auto safty and how to save lives. Just a thought. On a side note, how many seat belts used on the track, with a cage, are legal on the street? How many are DoT approved?
Makers of racing equipment have no incentive to spend the cash to get it, so they are not "approved".
By my reading those belts would not be legal with any of the major racing sanctioning bodies...why do you imagine that might be?
Mounting the shoulder belts that low would/could increase the chance of spinal compression and collarbone damage, whether the DOT thinks so or not.
The DOT does not have a very good rep on "safety", IMO...read the history of quartz halogen lighting for an example of how political pressure/money can influence their decisions.
10-19-10, 06:05 PM
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You think you just give DoT money and they will stand behind your product??? I think not, been in the car game WAY TO LONG to belive that. while their product may be mounted funny to you guys. it dose NOT change the fact that it meets CURRENT sfaty standerds. How ever im sick of beating my head aginst the wall.
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10-19-10, 06:23 PM
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The Pinto was DOT approved.
It would be interesting to see exactly what "standards" the Schroth belts are meeting.
I know for a fact that they wouldn't pass tech in a SCCA sanctioned event, hell, even 24 Hrs. of Lemons wouldn't allow them.
Stop beating your head against solid surfaces, it's contraindicated for internet discussion.
It would be interesting to see exactly what "standards" the Schroth belts are meeting.
I know for a fact that they wouldn't pass tech in a SCCA sanctioned event, hell, even 24 Hrs. of Lemons wouldn't allow them.
Stop beating your head against solid surfaces, it's contraindicated for internet discussion.