I agree, but think about this too....most 7 owners have what they have only because it is what they were able to find when they were looking. If you are going to put the cash into the car for the swap anyway, then what's the difference if you hafta redo the struts too?? aside from that, you can always do weight reduction....that is free!

I just don't understand it when some of you guys say that "just get a TII--its faster" or things like that. you're right, but faster isnt always the only thing I am after. I have already planned to do some weight reduction on mine over this winter....goodbye AAS and a lot of other things....keeping the AC, stereo and things like that, but I am getting rid of whatever else I can. When I am done, it may not be as fast as a tII, but it WILL be different than all the other RX7s....it will have some power, but it will also be unique, and that is what I want personally. To me that is better than getting the same exact thing that you have just cuz it's faster......

 

i agree with you skydivr i like the uniqueness of my turbo gxl ive upgraded the suspension and i have done a lot of weight reduction on the car and i have beaten many stock tIIs. but what i like is the fact that i still have power windows and a power sunroof, etc... etc.. and when a tII comes up beside me for a friendly race he thinks he's racing a stock gxl... i like the suprised look on his face when i take him or he BARELY takes me. i like being able to tell him "yeah i did the tII swap, shes my unique baby" i sit in a small crowd of gxl owners that can say we are much faster than you think. we arent the slow *** luxury model you know about. thats all, but i wouldnt feel the same if i had to go to the trouble to add this and that. its awfully hard to put a sunroof in without a hole being there allready and its a lot of trouble adding electric windows or mirrors when you have manual everything i like the fact that i can open my sunroof and smoke some bullshit *** ricer that wants to run me, that i can open my passenger window if i want mid race... thats my choice and with a base i would be able to do it. just my opinion.

 

gxl, heaviest with all the nicieties. needs to be made faster, moughahahha

 

S4 SPORT!! it's the S4 of the GTUs... its got no sunroof, all the performance goodies like suspension, brakes, aero package, like the TII minus the turbo and power options. It's the lightest performance based model, its even lighter than the GTUs. I dont see why no one ever even mentioned the Sport.

 

im thinking about doing a turbo swap on my 91 coupe, i havent seen a decent s5 turbo for sale around houston in years...yes years. and i love my car and dont want to get rid of it, just want to make it better. ive got the 5 lug brakes and 'hard' suspension. ive taken out all the stuff i dont really need but have everything that i need to be comfortable. it would be lighter than a stock s5tII and wouldnt be stripped down, and actually might make a good canidate for an infini IV replica...but thats just dreaming...need to graduate first.

 

My 88 SE is the best for the swap!! Just because I own it!! I do think it will be quick since the only creature comforts are power steering and AC.

I already have the TII brake system and LSD and now the Engine.... Just need a good tranny and some dyno time to tune the Air Fuel settings!

I think all the cars are good for different reasons.... But the car I have a title to is the best at any time!!!

 

I'm doing the swap in my 88 GTU since I blew a coolant seal. I'd have to say it's one of the best to do the swap in.

It's got LSD so I don't totally need the TII rearend(I know about halfshafts) It has the TII suspension and brakes.

Plus it weighs in around 2700-2800 lbs so with a TII engine it will be lighter than a TII since I don't have the extra luxury stuff. Power sunroof/mirrors/steering/Bucket(the good version). seats only. No ABS too. I never really liked abs anyways.

 

its way too much trouble to do a N/A to turbo swap you are better off selling what you have and buy a TII,you will save time and money...

 

Not in my case. The GTU with a blown motor will sell for nothing when it was blue booked at $3500 running.

Luckily I have friends which are helping me but I am going to drop about 2 grand total.

That would make the total amount of money I spent on the car to be $4400.
That's the price if a TII in good shape.

 

Why do so many damn guys want me to sell my car and buy a TII???

I like my light weight car with title... Already has numerous mods and conversions on it. I would lose my *** selling a blown NA and then have to attempt to find a GOOD Affordable TII and then customize and modify to my liking.....

I also enjoy wrenching on my own wheels...

My TII conversion is MUCH cheaper than buying a TII...

Get off the damn sell your NA soapbox guys and be supportive of those of us whom have decided to keep the cars we like and own... I am attached to my REX and hope to be rolling by next weekend... If I had done the sell and rebuy I would still be hunting for a TII right now!!!

 

I voted for the 86-87 Sport for the previously mentioned reasons, it is basically the lightest possible chassis that still has all the performance goodies. I just sold a GXL to get a Sport for this exact reason.
HAHA, yeah, right. In the metro DC area, you can either:

1) buy an N/A and convert it to a budget TII for around $2500 and be faster then a real TII, or
2) buy a real TII for $5000 or more.

TII's are rare and expensive around here, so selling an N/A to buy a TII when you can build your own TII for cheaper is a really bad idea.

 

Find a Black on Black GTUs and tear it apart ;-) j/k

I am going to do the TII swap.. one of these days.. into my 87 Luxury model.. I think I am going to keep the 4 lugs too!!! So to all you haters :-P

A Sport would probably be the best thou.


Oh and the swap is friggin expensive too.. gonna cost me more than the car cost..

 

performance wise, the vert would be a baaad bad choice... but I voted for it anyway

 

mine's an '86 base.

And yes, so far it's cost more than the car was. Of course, the car was $150...

and anyway, it'll have ~370rwhp when all is said and done.

my na->tii swap was much cheaper than buying a TII when you consider the cost of mods...

 

This is exactly the point that a lot of us NA guys have been trying to make......OK--for all you TII guys who just dont seem to get it--try this....

Let's say I was looking to get rid of my GXL and buy a TII. In order for that to happen, I would have to find one of YOU who was willing to sell me YOUR car. NOW--since we always hear you turbo guys spouting off about how cool your rides are and how much better it is than our NA's, just how many of you are now going to willingly part with it?? Let's get real here....no one out there posts threads about the TII-NA UPGRADE, right?? Simply cuz improvements only go in one direction. There are only so many working TII's out there, and swapping is really a much better choice than you guys try to make it out to be IMHO. I can find the driveline and parts from a WRECKED or SALVAGED TII that isnt driving anyway, which makes them much more available.

oh, and I dont get something else--we all know the verts are heavier, but look at a Vette. What are they up to now, 3200 pounds? even more?? If you are worried about weight that much then you should go get a crotch rocket and nothing else. If you are putting some good power down you can still be fast. Some of you guys talk like you own a 7 only for competitive racing or something. Looking to save a pound here and a few there WILL make you faster than a stock car, but unless you are running the traps and tenths of a second count, what is the point? We own cars that are more than a dozen years old now, and in most cases you wont find very many people owning other cars like that unless you are talking about Vettes or other collectibles(read expensive!). Just to have one of these running and fast is a good thing. To go nuts about weight reduction, pulling out your a/c and stereo, all that doesnt serve much purpose for a daily driver. Like $150FC....370 hp will get anything moving fast as hell. So who cares if the car has a couple hundred extra pounds? I could ADD weight to mine and with that much power I can smoke every stock TII there is(or mildly modded too)

Think about it--just my two cents.....sorry for ranting on but it's time for some of us to get some reality

 

I'm all in favor of putting a TII in a convetable. I really want to to a tII swap into my 88 vert in a few years...or whenever the wife lets me start spending money again...Damn you rotary power!...all that spining and now I gots no money!

 

Gotta say this--Series 3 GSL-SE!

 

Yeah seriosly, enough with this "just buy a TII" crap. If it were that damn easy, I would have done it already.

 

If you found a completely beaten up turbo 2 and a good SE that would be a good swap so you could transfer brakes over and all that. The SE would be the lightest and probably the best performer after you changed everything out. The Vert would be unique but a porker.

 

I have a TII engine and drivetrain and I want to drop it into a vert sooo bad too bad they are hard to find and I probably won't have the money to get it when it does happen. If anyone has a shell with decent interior and good paint for under 1k or without paint for under 700 then please let me know... my car caught fire...(NOT pd!!! my car was parked and it was a TII we think someone set fire to it.)

EDIT: it does not need a radio or the vert seats... and it does not need to be black, thats just the color I like the most

 

Vert, cause it's heavier and needs the kick anyway. Plus if you are going to waste your time and money rather than just getting a Turbo II, you might as well do something different

 

As I think of it, any of the NA's are good candidates for the TII swap - even the cheapy swap meaning the NA tranny and rear are still utilized. Sure, the GXL and SE were soft but do any of us really have stock suspensions anymore? I'm wiling to bet the vast majority have springs and struts/shocks as well as a decent set of tires. also, if you take the lightest model FC and swap over all the TII pieces including engine, tranny, rear, brakes and bigger wheels/tires you'll only be marginally lighter than a TII w/ a sunroof and all power amenities...I don't think the 100lbs or so is so important for most of us (street drivers). I have a kevin landers TII swap for my SE that will use my NA drivetrain (spent to much on that RB aluminum flywheel not to use it hehe) but I have already ditched a bunch of weight elsewhere in the car (stock seats, A/C, emissions, spare/jack, air pump) to offset any weight I may have gained (17's w/ 215 45 fr, 235/45 r), strut bars front and rear, lower arm bar, front lip, sideskirts etc...it's all a balancing act

 

Gotta be the 88 GTU, it has the Turbo options minus the Turbo...INCLUDING the much nicer Turbo II firm & supportive seats! Already has trhe aero pkg too...No doubt, the 88 GTU ROCKS!

 

Dont be hatin'

"Long live the GTUs II's!!!"

 

I was wondering guys, can you put a S5 TII swap, in a S4 car? thanks.