amen. that's why I am saving my money for an exhaust I really want and can live with.

 

Thirded. Though, my car currently fits into your 2nd category... I was told it would be loud, I didn't expect it to be THIS loud.

IMHO, the loud N/As count as rice - its so loud compared to how quick it is. So in my own definition, I'm a ricer .

 

Get the Borla! its full stainless steel with life time garantee and around $415 shipped!

 

I've got a custom system that costed me 450 total. but it was custom. i've got an apex-i turbo app universal exhaust with racing beat header and RB presilencer, which still needs to go in.

 

lol remember for every HP you pick up youre gonna also pick up like 20DB of noise lol.

 

I have recently installed RB RoadRace Exhaust & a K&N intake cost plus hangers & gaskets was about $1500. Save up your money. do it once & do it right. My cans just look awesome. makes the rest of the car look bad. Sound is really quiet at normal revs & opens up in tone very nicely. Even throws flames if you really get on it in a upshift. I know it's expensive, but U really get what U pay for. Ifelt bad putting such a gorgeous thing under the car. My car's been through 3 other exhaust incarnations. The RR was the best by far. Power seemed to increase between 5-7K rpms - right in the nice power band. Istill get a nice thrill just seeing the car with those gorgeous cans hangin' down the back. Hope this helps. I had gone the cheapo route B4 with just a header & a cheater-catalyser to old midas cans. It smoked like hell & sounded absolutley abnoxious - my buddies all gave me a bad time about hearing me 2 miles away. Now everything is perfect.

Later!

Ramses666

 

That can be debated.

You must also tak into account the increase in weight. Maybe it'll make 1 or 2 more rwhp than a header/testpipe/single exit exhaust, but the single exit will be a LOT lighter. Lighter = faster too, it's not always about power.

Plus some people believe on stock ports the true duals is too much and actually doesn't help as a collected header will.

Does anyone even have dyno results of true dual versus a collected header? I'm even sure if it's been proven or disproven either way yet, but I could be wrong.

 

Well the best exhuast, I would say true dual setup. Wider powerband then collected and seemed to have a BIG power difference over stock.. And for you folks in cali.. your just in luck.. I'm selling it to help fund my rx-2 13bt project!! Currently at $499!! So this is your time to save if your in the market. Has a sound clip so you get an idea of sound level and tone.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMESE%3AIT

 

has anyone actually dynod a true dual compared to single compared to fake dual.. it seems that noone has or else there wouldnt be a debate.

 

I don't believe anyone has, which is why it's all talk. True duals MIGHT, read possibly not guaranteed, give a few more hp than a collected header to dual or single catback, but it is heavier so you have to take that into consideration too.

I really don't believe there's any proof out there yet, and honestly the best exhaust that will provide the most power would be one with a custom made header that is proper for that particular engine/porting, and then the proper sized piping in the catback. But that'd be a lot more expensive obviously.