dRifterX7

i'm on the verge of buying a new diff for my rx. Just want to know what diff would be best for drifting and why. my car is a 1990 turbo II and i plan on installing a cusco 2 way differential. any ideas

theonlygreat

searching would be a good idea. people always ask what would be best for drifting. everybody argues their opinion from open diff. to welded diff. and nobody comes up with a real answer. the underlying them of the threads is usually buy what you prefer for the application you are going to use your car in.

ie.
if it is a race car, get a crazy lockem up kind of differential.
if it is a street car or driven on the steet on a normal basis, leave it stock or get a torsen from a miata or FD.

Bebesito21

get really sticky tires to better control the drift.....a quick spooling turbo with around 350 to 400 hop...modify the suspension....and take some classes....oh and lots of practice

dRifterX7

anybody else wanna share what differential they use

Gen2

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KAAZ!!!!

slidingsky

I am installing a savanna torsen in my NA. I dont really intend on the car being a drift car. I have another in the works as a drifter. Im gonna go cusco. All the guys here swear by cusco over kaaz. Most guys in JP who arent using Nismo or TRD are running cusco. some kei office. Very few KAAZ. the lsd is something Im not willing to experiment on.
sky

dRifterX7

Cheers guys, i've been told a 1.5 open diif would be best suited. still dont know wot im goin to do

Liquid Anarchy

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Torsens have a problem w/ disengaging if one of the tires start spinning.

Auto-X'ers use Clutch-Type Diff's (S4 N/A's)
Drag Racers would benefit most from Torsens (Some 1.8L Miata's)

I have no clue who would benefit from a vicious diff?? Personally, I'm putting the Clutch-Type from an 88' GTU in my car. It's the best all-around differential in my opinion. Great for Auto-X, Good for Drags, Very Streetable, and Easily come across.

slidingsky

I have to disagree with you liquid. I have 4 clutch lsd. 2 TII and 2 NA. All three dont engage well. 4/4 is pretty bad odds. Torsen cant be beat on the street.
BUT the clutch is a great diff if it works properly.
I would reconcider the kaaz, realizing that cusco is JP only and KAAZ both US and JP. cust support means alot to me.
Dont get a 1.5 for drift though. A 2 way is the way to go!
It will engage on accel on and off. A one way is accel on only and a 1.5 is supposta have less lock on decel than 2 way. Drift is alot of throttle input.

adamlewis

The clutch packs are probably old and worn out...

3isacharm

huh? you meant all four right?

can you provide some facts to reinforce the claim rather than "supposta's"?

cafcwest

I do hope you mean on the front of the car.

In general, it seems that sooooo many of the people around here jsut guess or pass along what they heard from there friend's friend when it comes to drifting.

As anyone here ever participated in a real organized on-track drift event????? I have and let me tell you that the time you are putting into worrying about which diff could instead be spent on practice and will help you skill 100%. Equipment will never make up for lack of skill. Just get the LSD that suits the price you want to pay and then get on the track already.

slidingsky

That is true.
This stuff I said about the 1 vs 2 way is from a old hot version video. THey were doing testing between the two.
Oh and on that thing about the good front tires. BECAREFUL. You will chew up alot of tread from spin outs. I know I lost soo much rubber off my paradas. I was kinda bummed. now I just run crap all around. I usually try and run the better ones up front. Just what Ive found.
sky

Liquid Anarchy

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My comments are based on the circumstance that the differentials are in good, working order; that's like me reccomending a brand of windsheild wiper, and you saying "I have those, but I don't like em'! I bought them 9 years ago, and all that's left is the metal!"

Rxmfn7

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IS the viscous diff terrible or what? I have a S4 GXL, so I have the clutch type, but I have a 89 GTUs diff I am installing in the next few weeks, which as you know has the vicsous. The more I hear people talking the more I am not sure if I want it. Is the Viscous LSD really all that bad, noticalbly than the stock S4 clutch type?

Liquid Anarchy

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Throw the GTUs Ring and Pinion on the GXL's Diff

Rxmfn7

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What's so bad about the viscous? Sure it may take an extra split second to lock up, but is it really that noticable?

Center of The Universe

I SECOND THAT! KAAZ IS TEH R0X0R !

Center of The Universe

But good LSD is the differnce between you not struggling on the track keep your back end out and not sliding at all. when you drift, LSD is your best friend.

cafcwest

Everyones fixation on parts is soooo overblown. True, if you are a professional driver, then your ability to drift will be affected by this diff or that diff. But no one around here I think will ever be so skilled in my opinion.

No, LSD is not your best freind in drifting. SKILL is your best freind in drifting. Knowing how to drive your car at a high rate of control around a turn then do everything against the cars will is what you need to know how to do.

I will post pics of me drifintg a base S4. No LSD, no power. Nothing but air pressure adjustments. Better yet, I will take some pics at Beaver Run of me in my 85 Civic. The rear sway is thick enough and strong enough e-brake that I will drift that in a few weekend jsut for you super cool fad parts *****.

-Jayson <--starting to now hate drifting becasue of the 'fad' factor

Liquid Anarchy

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You say we're all unskilled, then you claim to be able to drift a FWD car...

Unskilled, maybe... @ least I'm not an idiot.

sneakyasian

haha like center of the universe said in another drifting post. fwd cars *** drag!! but like I've said before and I can only say for my integra... but it *** drug at 75 around a 300degree corner. all the way and I could modulate the back end with the throttle!! it works!! it's just more nerve racking cause you don't have the power to play with. feint motion drifting is the best!! not power drifting!! anyone with a right foot and a sense of direction can do that!!

mikeric

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I have to agree that skill makes a bigger diference over components. My car was a tired '90 GXL that had 78 horses. Due to no other RX-7s showing up for the West Texas autocross events, I was always bumped up with the 5.0s and the S2000s. Talk about outclassed! I never finished first, but I was usually a close second or third. I had Mustang guys asking me if I had a turbo under the hood (I now do he, he). I have two friends that autocross with me. One of them has an Integra and the other has a Sentra. I have tried drag racing both of these cars and they both kicked my ***. However, I consistantly beat their autocross times by five to ten seconds. Yes, I know, the RX-7 is a better handling car but my point is if I can hang with a 240hp S2000 driving an old beat up 78hp car, hardware isn't everything. I ill say that the S4 differential is superior to the S5. I have one on my garage floor right now just waiting to be installed.

sonic7

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i personally dont really have a pref... i tend to not think about what diff. i have while throwing my 2,700lb 5,000dollar car around a corner sideways... I like one wheel of fury and limited, they both make me go sideways... But like they said before, """"PRACTICE""" BEFORE YOU DO ANY PURCHASING!!!

cafcwest

Oh great. You make up for your lack of knowledge with name calling. Very nice.

I'm not going to even argue the point. Those of you that understand will understand. Please teach those like this gentleman who do not understand. I dont have the time or patience
-Jayson