Battery harness problem or battery problem? HELP!!!!
05-31-08, 07:14 PM
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Battery harness problem or battery problem? HELP!!!!
Alright so I was going to start my car for the first time after like tons of labor... So I get the microtech harness figured out and now this stupid battery problem.
First off, I haven't messed with the battery harness (driver side harness), it is still factory and all. So I go to plug a battery (positive wire to positive and negative wire (black and yellow) to negative. I have not hooked up the starter yet. I plug it in and I get power to the headlight motors and some other stuff inside the car. I'm like yay... Then I go to hook up the starter so I can actually crank my car, I look at the FSM and Haynes manual to make sure I do it right and I even call some people to make sure I got the wires right. The positive goes to the starter and then there is the wire plug right next to the positive that connects to the starter solenoid. Then the ground that I connected to the long starter bolt that holds the starter in place. I tighten everything. Then I connect the negative wire to the battery and as I was about to connect the positive to the positive, I barely touch it and it starts sparking and I can smell like something is burnt) I'm like WTF (Take note: my microtech power wire is not coneccted and my microtech is not connected at all)... So I go to take my starter to get tested at napa, it check out... Can someone tell me what the heck did I do wrong, did I forget to connect something. It is only when I connected my starter that the battery did this, when the starter was not connected I got power to my electricals. Someone help me cuz I really want to fire my car up for the first time.... Any help is appreciated...
First off, I haven't messed with the battery harness (driver side harness), it is still factory and all. So I go to plug a battery (positive wire to positive and negative wire (black and yellow) to negative. I have not hooked up the starter yet. I plug it in and I get power to the headlight motors and some other stuff inside the car. I'm like yay... Then I go to hook up the starter so I can actually crank my car, I look at the FSM and Haynes manual to make sure I do it right and I even call some people to make sure I got the wires right. The positive goes to the starter and then there is the wire plug right next to the positive that connects to the starter solenoid. Then the ground that I connected to the long starter bolt that holds the starter in place. I tighten everything. Then I connect the negative wire to the battery and as I was about to connect the positive to the positive, I barely touch it and it starts sparking and I can smell like something is burnt) I'm like WTF (Take note: my microtech power wire is not coneccted and my microtech is not connected at all)... So I go to take my starter to get tested at napa, it check out... Can someone tell me what the heck did I do wrong, did I forget to connect something. It is only when I connected my starter that the battery did this, when the starter was not connected I got power to my electricals. Someone help me cuz I really want to fire my car up for the first time.... Any help is appreciated...
05-31-08, 11:52 PM
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1. Never put the Neg on first, always last.
2. The only thing I can say is that somewhere around the harness, you haven't figured everything out. You have a Pos terminal being grounded somewhere which isn't supposed to happen. Yes, sparking across any electronic devices will probably induce a burn smell. Even let's say you have a loose wire just hanging on the vehicle somewhere that goes somewhere, it can't touch the body since that is grounded.
2. The only thing I can say is that somewhere around the harness, you haven't figured everything out. You have a Pos terminal being grounded somewhere which isn't supposed to happen. Yes, sparking across any electronic devices will probably induce a burn smell. Even let's say you have a loose wire just hanging on the vehicle somewhere that goes somewhere, it can't touch the body since that is grounded.
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That is what I have been thinking and everyone is telling me. I look and looked and nothing is touching the body. I am going to take some zip ties and tie all the wires together away from the body. But it only did this when I connected the starter, when the starter was not connected I got power to the rest of the car like the warning lights on my dash and my motors for my headlights came up.... I will try and figure out where the ground that is not supposed to be there is located...
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You have your starter wired wrong.
Look at your starter solenoid. You have two large posts. On one of those posts there is a wire coming out of the body of the starter going to it. So you now connect the Positive cable that comes directly from the starter, to THAT same post.
The other large post gets nothing.
The small blade on the solenoid gets the small trigger wire.
The large bolt on the starter gets the negative battery cable. This is the same cable that is connected to the battery negative post. Not some home made gnd.
*A* in the attached jpg gets Nothing. *B* gets the battery positive cable.
*C* gets the trigger wire that comes from the ignition key.
Jumper *C* to *B* will cause the starter/engine to turn over. As in using a screwdriver shank to jumper b/t the two. If the transmission is in gear, the car will move fwd and run you over. OR might move aft and run you over. Depends. In neutral, the car..................................yes.
Look at your starter solenoid. You have two large posts. On one of those posts there is a wire coming out of the body of the starter going to it. So you now connect the Positive cable that comes directly from the starter, to THAT same post.
The other large post gets nothing.
The small blade on the solenoid gets the small trigger wire.
The large bolt on the starter gets the negative battery cable. This is the same cable that is connected to the battery negative post. Not some home made gnd.
*A* in the attached jpg gets Nothing. *B* gets the battery positive cable.
*C* gets the trigger wire that comes from the ignition key.
Jumper *C* to *B* will cause the starter/engine to turn over. As in using a screwdriver shank to jumper b/t the two. If the transmission is in gear, the car will move fwd and run you over. OR might move aft and run you over. Depends. In neutral, the car..................................yes.
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I thought positive would go to "A" in ur pic since the wire on the starter is connected to "B". But if what you say is right, my starter wiring is completely different because the wire that is connected to "b" in ur pic is connected to "A" on my starter. It was like that when I got it from japan with my motor and all... I connected my positive to the other one "B". I don't think I did it wrong cuz I looked at another car to make sure my wiring was the same... Anyways the prob was in my fuse box... There was no main fuse and the prongs that connect to the main fuse were bent together so they were touching each other (I guess that is how the car was when I got it, I've never touched the fuse yet)... I undid it and my battery doesn't spark anymore, I get power to ym lights and all... Now I need a main fuse and replace the copper connectors... The copper connector in ur background!!! LOL
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