JNAHM1

Hello,

I am looking around and trying to find a ballbearing turbo prob. t04 sized and attach it to a hks t04 manifold. what are my options? im trying to get atleast 350rwhp. and would like to go more. I typed up a whole big thread, and when i came back to my office, it was gone. thats why this thread is short and simple.

thanks for your time
links appreciated

Josh

RyoFC3S

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Check out the Garrett GT-Series turbos.

Make sure the exhaust mani is flanged for the turbo you end up getting.

-Andrew

BlaCkPlaGUE

I havent seen many exhaust manifolds for the FC3S turbo setups.. I've seen only two, theres this one at turbocalculator, under 300$, SS, no brand name that I can tell. I've seen a shitload of people with this manifold.
I've also seen a really nice HKS manifold on ebay for the FC3S, it wasn't stainless steel, but it looked very solid. Im personally looking at the one from turbocalculator.com stainless steel is good enoughe for me, less metal expansion under heat loads. I can't remember how well the wastegate port was mounted tho..

Infini IV

HKS cast manifold is a good choice. It's not optimally designed as far as wastegate placement and runner design, but it works and lasts forever. It has a T4 flange on it, so any full T4 turbo will fit on it.

If you're looking for 350rwhp, a T04E will do it provide fast spool-up, so you will not need to get a ball-bearing version. If you are intent on using a ball-bearing turbo, you should give Precision, or ATP, or Innovative a call. Again, you will not get much in terms of spool-up on a relatively small turbo.

RETed

Garrett doesn't make a T04 flanges turbine section that is ball-bearing.


-Ted

rx7lover0147

what flange comes on that manifold, i also am wanting to get a to4e but i'm not real sure on where to look also i am very very very confused with some people saying that a to4e is not a to4e 60 trim (which is what im looking for) and saying that other companies make to4e's but they are all different but neway i am looking for the to4e 60 trim and i am wanting to get a good quick turbo for auto-x that will supply up to 400 hp with a ported motor, also will that turbo be able to bolt onto that manifold from above?
thanks for your help so much
the lost one

eViLRotor

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Garett T04E "60" trim compressor has a 2.290"inducer and 2.950" exducer. That is how you would tell for sure.

Any T4 footprint turbo will bolt up to the HKS manifold.

JNAHM1

hmmm...I havent figured out the turbo yet. Or which secondary injectors. I was figuring ball bearing would help spool. what kits are you guys using. I need the external wastegate, because i dont want internal. prob tial or something like that.

Bukwild

bosch 1680 fuel injectors will be the best choice.

Infini IV

If sized correctly, you will have a turbo that will make 350rwhp, and get full boost in 4th gear by around 3,000 - 3,500 rpm even with the HKS cast manifold. If you are looking for a "kit", the HKS turbo kit for the FC works quite well, and includes pretty much everything you need to get up and running.

As mentioned already, I recommend a T04E with a 60-trim compressor wheel. It should get you 350rwhp @ 15psi boost, and maybe over 400rwhp @ 20psi boost depending on motor porting.

With stock ports, I would use a .81 A/R turbine housing with a P-trim turbine wheel. This should get you a nice quick spool. With a ported motor, use at least a .96 A/R turbine housing and a P-trim turbine wheel.

As for secondary injectors, 1600cc's allow room to grow past 350rwhp. BTW, what engine management are you using?

rx7lover0147

i'm sorry to hijack a thread but where can i find a to4e ptrim .96 a/r, or who is a good company to buy this from? thanks so much for the help.

hondahater

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why would people go through all the hassle of upgrading to a full turbo upgrade with only a 350rwhp output??? I can get a bnr stage III upgraded turbo that bolts right on that is good for that much. Just wondering.

BlaCkPlaGUE

If your planning to buy a new turbo, save the extra 200$ and get yourself the garrett t60 series, I 'think' its the t61/62? its about 650$
With those I believe you get more cfm with less heat.

The manifold at turbocalculator thats stainless steel is the a t04 flange. I havent seen any other flanges other than t03/04 for the exhuast manifolds for the fc.

RXSevenSymphonies

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Generally always get a GT35R

Infini IV

rx7lover0147 - Give a couple turbo shops a call and tell them the specs of the turbo you are looking for. That's how you get a turbo.

hondahater - There is room to grow with a full T4 turbo, whereas with a hybrid, you are always bound by the size of the stock turbo manifold and turbine housing. You can stuff a P-trim turbine wheel into a stock turbo along with a bigger compressor wheel/housing, but you will have hard times controlling boost with the design of the stock turbine housing as well.

BlaCkPlaGUE - The 60-1 is a nice option as well, and will flow slightly more than a T04E 60-trim at a slightly higher price. The T61 is rarely used, but may very well be a great street turbo to use. Forum user "nyt" is using one currently and loves it. The 62-1 is based on the 60-1, but bigger and flows a little more than the it as well.

RXSevenSymphonies - GT35R is a great turbo, but it uses a T3-sized flange. There are no T3 manifolds available for FC's. I'm assuming the original thread starter was looking for something which he could readily buy and was available.

JNAHM1

I would like at least 350rwhp...at the start. What would i really like? 450rwhp-500 But i didnt think that was possible as a daily driver, so i'll use all the best goodies and see what i come out with. I was thinking haltech, but again im not sure. I like to be conservative when i state HP numbers, i rather have the fastest 350rwhp ever than a 425hp car which gets smoked by cars with less hp. Im trying to get every part that will allow me to go as high in HP as possible, and tune that down a notch so i can drive it around a few times a week.

thanks for your time

Josh

hondahater

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ahhh gotcha so it's about more potential power and better control over boost spikes / creep. Thanks I always wondered that.

Bukwild

"RXSevenSymphonies - GT35R is a great turbo, but it uses a T3-sized flange. There are no T3 manifolds available for FC's. I'm assuming the original thread starter was looking for something which he could readily buy and was available."

This is true but the GT35/40R will get it done. Many speculate that the 35R and 35/40R are the same turbo with the differences in the t3/t4 footprint.

eViLRotor

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I thnk A-Spec in Chicago is working on a GT35R with a T4 footprint (if they don't have it already).

Cheapturbo.com has the Blowzilla with is non-BB GT35R compressor wheel in T04S housing, with a T4 footprint.

RXSevenSymphonies

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Just get a shop to make a custom manifold for the GT35R?

Infini IV

JNAHM1 - 450rwhp is not unacheivable as a daily driver... it just depends on when you want it to reach full-boost by and how much money you have to spend. Assuming you want to hit this power figure on pump gas boost levels (15-17psi), you would need a turbo a little bigger than a 62-1. A P-trim T66 works well with a nicely designed manifold, and should get you full boost around 4000rpm. A P-trim T04R/PT67 will probably produce the same amount of power at lower boost pressures.

Bukwild - GT35/40 is the same turbo as the GT35R. According to A-Spec, they have the same Garrett part numbers.

RXSevenSymphonies - I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear earlier, but there are GT35R kits available for the FC... www.aseturbo.com is located in Australia and have a nice GT35R kit for the FC.

JNAHM1

makes me miss my evo...21psi...320awhp and only 4 mods...hmmm or wrx..or m3.....

thanks for the advice...ill try a t04 sized turbo. how are your results with ball bearings vs without? seems alot of you are using non ball bearing t04?

eViLRotor

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Rotories have little problems spooling quite large turbos, even with big turbine A/R's. BB just means a really fast spooling large turbo

The big money spending FD guys are more into the BB stuff.

JNAHM1

hmm. Well I just picked up this 87 turbo 2 with only 47k original miles on it. I also have a jaguar. I figure this rx7 will be my fun car. Im sure it drifts well and you can make it reasonably quick. especially cause its about 400lbs lighter than my evo was and only 2wd. I dont mind spending some money but spending 1000 for 5 hp gets to be the end. (thats where i was with my wrx after i modded it) than started worrying about the trans going.

Jaguar
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My wrx
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