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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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Bad primary injector leak

For some reason I can't get my primary injectors (720cc rc) to seal worth ****.. The leak is coming from the base of the injector. I do have the rail spacer, top o-ring, and bottom grommet. My first set of bottom grommets were from rc. One grommet was split right in half, so that was an obvious fix. This second set was from mazda, they seem cheaper. And still leaking.

So I pulled everything AGAIN, and pulled out the diffusers this time. Surprisngly they came out like butter, they're normally notorious for breaking? The only thing I can see wrong with this picture, is the top diffuser's o-ring's are really hard, are they supposed to be soft? Need some help here guy's.

I'm also running a microtech, and without the wiring not being stock. How do you keep the pump running to check for leaks?
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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There's a fuel check connector with two terminals. Jumper the two terminals and w/key to on the fuel pump turns on.

Post #21 https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/how-fix-my-afm-924093/
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Microtech harness, don't have that.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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Well! Then go to the Circuit Opening relay and jumper the Brown wire to the solid Black wire in the same relay and w/key to on it will turn the pump on and don't tell me you don't have the relay mentioned.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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Circuit opening relay... Where is this? hah
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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Yellow relay located underneath the dash just to the right of the steering wheel. Has 5 wires in it. Solid Black and the Brown wire should be on the bottom row of the plug.

Pic in post #166 https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/86-tii-swap-wont-start-but-really-wants-887302/page7/
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 12:47 AM
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If it's a microtech it may have bypassed the OEM circuit opening relay (aka fuel pump relay) altogether. What style of injector you have? Is it an American/Bosch style or the OEM/Denso style? Did the injector look like this on the bottom:



or was it factory style? If it's OEM style do you have the correct pintle cap for it?
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I have denso style injectors from rc engineering. Secondaries have a grommet on the top, o-ring on the top, and bottom grommet. Primaries have o ring top, grommet bottom. No pintle cap on either injectors. I thought you didn't need the pintle cap on aftermarkets?
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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So wait, its just not sealing well with the rail or with the iron? If its not sealing well with the iron, get some 3/8th inch fuel line and make bigger grommets from it.
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Not sealing with the iron. Could it be not having a top grommet? When I was installing it seemed the top grommet wouldn't work on the primary.

I had a boost leak tester, pressurizing the turbo and air was hissing and escaping really quick under the manifold. Reaked like gas as well. Sprayed water around the bottom grommet and bubbled.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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try installing S5 pintle caps, they are $2 each from Mazdatrix:

http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.as...m=13-MZTX-0003

I say this because my Bosch injectors wouldn't fully seal at the bottom without them.
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Originally Posted by Travis V
Not sealing with the iron. Could it be not having a top grommet? When I was installing it seemed the top grommet wouldn't work on the primary.

I had a boost leak tester, pressurizing the turbo and air was hissing and escaping really quick under the manifold. Reaked like gas as well. Sprayed water around the bottom grommet and bubbled.
I had the same problem about two weeks ago. 3/8 inch fuel hose, cut to size for new grommet, no more air leak..... I do however have both the pintle caps installed.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Thanks arghx, i'll give it a shot.

Tex.. Sounds a little ghetto to me.. I'll try the pintle caps, then maybe go to your idea hah.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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These are rc injectors but s4 engine. Go for s4 pintle's?
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Originally Posted by Travis V
Tex.. Sounds a little ghetto to me.. I'll try the pintle caps, then maybe go to your idea hah.
Vulcanized rubber is Vulcanized rubber, yo.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Travis V
These are rc injectors but s4 engine. Go for s4 pintle's?
I don't have a definite answer to that question, but I can tell you that s5 pintle caps are bigger and may seal better. Both are cheap. Buy both and see which works better.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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does someone have a pic of the fuel check harness i cannot view the pic on the thread... thanks.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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it's a yellow 2 pin connector right at the RF strut tower in the engine bay, it's covered by a black rubber boot generally so sometimes a little difficult to spot.

this doesn't apply to the OP's question though. he will have to find his fuel pump relay that was installed with the microtech and jumper the wire to the pump to a 12V source. ask your microtech EMS installer where this relay is(it could literally be anywhere on the car).

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