darkprince134

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one word..expensive

evileagle

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I've seen it a few times. I've seen a couple honda civics with transversely mounted 13Bs as well.

digitalsolo

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Then build it?

Just remember, nowhere near broke and enough money to finance something like this are very disparate locations. I'm nowhere near broke, hell, I've spent upwards of 15K on my FC in the past 2 years, and that's just one of a few cars, but I don't have nearly the funding to properly convert the car to AWD.

westler91

What I meant was...oh never mind. I am part owner of a shop out here in Vegas that does installs like these. My friend and his workers do the auto work and I do the paperwork per se. When I ask him questions like these, he says go on to RX7club and see what those bitter haters have to say...Either way he just didnt know what vehicle had AWD in the mazda line that would be compatible. Anyways we do a lot of **** around here thats for show and not necessarily for function. Like our woofer van has like 30 subs in it but you could get much more bass out of 4 finely tuned high watt subs.........peace

MARTIN

Theres a big difference between a car company cutting costs, and a shop that puts money into cars with nothing to show for it.... 30 subs when 4 subs output more spl is completely fukin stupid.... Thats cool though, do your ****...

gerbraldy

I'd love to see an awd "street" car rx7. More power to ya if you can do it, just keep us updated on your "progress". Don't expect it to handle as good though once your done with it

afgmoto1978

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To do it proper and retain the handling characteristic of a RWD you would have to retain a front midship engine layout. Which is a lot of one off fab work which a lot of money.

However if you raised the motor to compensate for a drive shaft thought the oil pan, move the motor back so the pumkin is in the same axis as the front spindles, create a custom front housing that intergrates the front pumpkin, create a custom motor frame that compensate for the added stress you would see; then either convert the front suspension to say Porsche 911 C4 layout or go push rod which requires a completely custom front assembly (i.e. tube frame) you could do it. However, the cost alone would be enough where you could go out just buy a Porsche 911 C4. Why do it, unless you want to be innovative no matter the cost.

Good luck.

Here's a flame...drag racing is only for people who don't know how to drive, but still want to go fast.

Parastie

I really don't think an NA engine would have the HP or torque needed for an AWD setup...

sc0rp7

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hehehe, saw something relted to this... here ya go... read on this page...

http://ausrotary.dntinternet.com/for...ighlight=civic

thought a 12aBP was kinda cool actually...

- chris

GodSquadMandrake

So is anybody really seriously going to do this conversion?

There aer lots of underpowered AWD setups.

TitosToy

that's freakin sick!!!......i don't know whether to love it or hate it.

rotary downshift

the only place awd will give u better traction is in adverse driving vonditions ... on the road rwd is optimal just learn to steer with ur rear man ... much easier than having ur car drive u .... drive ur car .,.... and besides thoes mods would make ur car so heavy it would bring shave to the rx7 ... it would be a freakin toboggon

KompressorLOgic

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wewant to make one so we can have an OFFROAD RX7.... the 79 rx-7 sure doesnt like to go in the mud very deep....

ProjectR13B

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honestly, I'd say it sounds hot. btu i agree you will need more power so a turbo motor may be an option. btu hey I love rallies, so i cant help but enjoy AWD cars. I really want a Mazdaspeed 6 myself for an AWD car, but he a 7 would be cool too.

RETed

You're welcome to live in your dream world, but some of us like to live in this world called REALITY.
I never said it was impossible.
Officially...on the record...I think 99.9999999% of you whiners that support something like this CAN'T AFFORD IT.
Prove me wrong?


-Ted

westler91

Lets bet that your website will crash in less than three days

EJayCe996

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ZoMgH4X0R Alert!
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RETed

Sure.
And if it doesn't, will you just go away?
I won't hold my breath...


-Ted

Jager

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1. S5 bumpers looks better and has more room for an intercooler?
2. CF interior because the stock radio surround breaks.
3. Piston swap because its good bang for the buck.
4. Wheels also apply more grip because of having the option to run a bigger tire.
5. And I don't there are alot of "JDM" people here on this forum.

Plus all of them don't cost thousands of dollars (unless its a 20B ).

SJ_chameleon

I just wanted to point out that no one has even mentioned that you lose more power through a 4WD drivetrain than a RWD. I mean common sense alone would tell you that it takes more power to spin four wheels than it does two. That is the only reason I would really frown upon this conversion. I would disagree that the only real advantage for 4WD is for adverse conditions, the car would probably launch better as well. I think the engine used would have to be a higher powered one as well. There is a reason all the 4WD rx7's you see have 20B's in them. BUT as the original starter of this thread said he doesnt care so much about function as he does for show, so if that is the case then I say go ahead. Its not my money he is spending its his so just let him do it.

cluosborne

I think it would cool to do. Fabrication-wise, if you're not doing it yourself, it will be expensive. Parts-wise, I think, would depend on how resourceful you are. Instead of running around finding parts, buy a donor vehicle, such as the MPV or 626 that has been mentioned already, and refurbish the parts you need.

Other than modifying the front end and maybe the floor pan to fit everything, the other major hurdle is tuning the suspension. You will change the weight distribution and the front suspension.

As for the engine, you'll definitely want something with a little more torque. Maybe the 13B N/A will get you moving, but I think a built 13BT would be a lot better. I think that this conversion brings two distinct advantages:

1. Better traction off the line and in adverse conditions.
2. Better handling since all four wheels are bringing power to the ground.

Bottom line: Plan, plan, plan. Then measure, measure it again, and then measure it again before cutting anything up. Plan what goals you want out of this, how much you want to spend, what parts sources you are going with, and stick to it.

Aaron Cake

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Thread cleaned up. You people should know better by now. Some of those involved in ruining this thread have absolutely no excuse.

That said...

I'm not sure I'm allowed to say anything , but I so far I have a very minor involvement in creating an AWD 1st gen. It's only at the very beginning right now, but the project will be followed to completion and won't cost a million dollars. I'll be wiring a standalone in it soon enough...

cluosborne

That sounds exciting Aaron.

I hope you, westler91, haven't gotten discouraged. I think it can be done, and if you want to do it, you can do it.

westler91

Thanks you guys........It seems all the rest of haters are quick to shoot their mouths off and cant offer any support or opinion. There were a few and I appreciate that. Will keep you updated on both projects

Terrh

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seriously..

I bet none of you can give me 5 reasons why buying a DSM wouldn't be 1000 times easier, and the end result work better.
and I hate dsm's!