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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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automatic seat belts in s4?

possible? has anyone done it?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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why would you want them? they suck.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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cant find black seat belts for my conversion.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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The only sources for black non-mouse belts are AE TII's, and canadian cars from what I understand.

Damn, I was like... someone wants those? hoping you had an AE.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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Have you ever driven a car with auto belts for any period of time? After I sold my old mouse-belt equipped '92 Integra, I promised myself I'd never own another car with those damn things again, they where that bad.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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which models of canadian cars had black manual belts?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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I'm pretty sure all of them... well, that had black interior anyway.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by Zer0 Cylinder
which models of canadian cars had black manual belts?
all the ones with black interiors

And too put mouse belts in would require major re-work to the frame and a complete replacement of the interior electrical system

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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i like the auto seatbelts...
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:00 AM
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The mouse belt tracks also fatten up the A-pillar and reduce forward visibility. I hate mine.

Wouldn't it be easier to dye yours black?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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Why not buy a 5 point harness like this? Its cheaper ($199.99) and sportier than going through the hassle of installing the tracked seat belt. I've owned a couple of cars with the auto belts and they aren't worth buying them if you don't already have them. My '92 Mazda MX-3 had a recall for them cause the motors would chew up the retractor cable, and my wifes '96 Escort belts don't retract when its cold outside.


http://www.jegs.com Right on the home page.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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id much rather have black manual.....if anyone has a set, lemme know
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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If I got five-points, the cops would be delivering me a nice custom ticket for NO belts in about five min......
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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If I got five-points, the cops would be delivering me a nice custom ticket for NO belts in about five min......
wha? please explain.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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wha? please explain.

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Its not legal to replace the factory restraint system, I.E.: switching from shoulder belts to a 5-point harness. I dont believe there is any law against having the harnesses in the car, but they are not legal to be used on the street. You need the factory seatbelts.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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there are also laws saying you can't change the factory lighting system among other things.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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Can't you just dye the blue belts black?

You can buy dye in an aerosol can and it goes on like spray paint.

I have seen it done on seats before and the results were impressive.

I imagine it would be a fairly straightforward process.

In fact, you may have been able to save yourself a whole lot of money by dying the interior pieces you had. I’ve never seen it done on trim pieces, but it’s worth looking into.

Typical fabric dyes will not work well because they are made for, well… fabric. Where as most of your interior is made out of plastics, (Nylon, and whatnot).

Just some stuff I found from google searches:

This stuff says it can be used on carpet, so I assume it would work for seatbelts:
http://www.worlduph.com/semdye.htm
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/corvette...dye-00-sc.html

This Plastikote stuff could be used for trim pieces (Check out the monitor he did, the black came out good).
http://linear1.org/mods/vdye.php

Dying is NOT the same as painting.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by eyeoutthere
Can't you just dye the blue belts black?

You can buy dye in an aerosol can and it goes on like spray paint.

I have seen it done on seats before and the results were impressive.

I imagine it would be a fairly straightforward process.

In fact, you may have been able to save yourself a whole lot of money by dying the interior pieces you had. I’ve never seen it done on trim pieces, but it’s worth looking into.

Typical fabric dyes will not work well because they are made for, well… fabric. Where as most of your interior is made out of plastics, (Nylon, and whatnot).

Just some stuff I found from google searches:

This stuff says it can be used on carpet, so I assume it would work for seatbelts:
http://www.worlduph.com/semdye.htm
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/corvette...dye-00-sc.html

This Plastikote stuff could be used for trim pieces (Check out the monitor he did, the black came out good).
http://linear1.org/mods/vdye.php

Dying is NOT the same as painting.
You would absolutely never ever ever want to use any sort of penetrating dye on the seatbelts. The webbing and weave of the seat belt can be permanently damaged and weakened, as well as if the dye causes any sort of fraying or thread release, you would track it into the return mechanism.

You are not even supposed to clean the seat belts with anything but a very very mild soap (like woolite) and cool water.

Remember that the seat belts are designed to keep in you in place in the event of an accident. The least bit of weakening could be extreamly dangerous!
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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yea i dont want the stuff rubbing off on clothes....
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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icemark, you wouldnt want me to die, find me some black belts.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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I'd just use grey.. They grey is a decent dark grey.

At least until you find a set, or talk one of our buddies in the great white north to get a set.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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ive been trying, just cant seem to find any.....anyone with pics of the dark grey??
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