Automatic FCs - Common Complaints?
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From: Morristown, TN (east of Knoxville)
Well I am working on my wife's FC Vert Non Turbo, A/T. I agree completely with everyting I have read, as I have a 5 speed which is a twin sister to her car. I don't know that she has the issues you have talked about , but the biggest problem is that a very nice idle in Park, completely stalls as soon as you shift to drive, and if not you have to dance on the throttle to keep it running.
Is this, as RR suggests, a transmission issue or an engine issue ?
Is this, as RR suggests, a transmission issue or an engine issue ?
Obviously the A/T is less than desirable.
She didn't have this problem last year, so obviously something has gone amiss over the winter, but is it possible that it's a transmission issue ?
Ah, sorry didn't see the next page RR.
I was afraid of that. In other words, a possible apex or corner seal leak ?
She didn't have this problem last year, so obviously something has gone amiss over the winter, but is it possible that it's a transmission issue ?
Ah, sorry didn't see the next page RR.
I was afraid of that. In other words, a possible apex or corner seal leak ?
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Obviously the A/T is less than desirable.
She didn't have this problem last year, so obviously something has gone amiss over the winter, but is it possible that it's a transmission issue ?
Ah, sorry didn't see the next page RR.
I was afraid of that. In other words, a possible apex or corner seal leak ?
She didn't have this problem last year, so obviously something has gone amiss over the winter, but is it possible that it's a transmission issue ?
Ah, sorry didn't see the next page RR.
I was afraid of that. In other words, a possible apex or corner seal leak ?
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From: Morristown, TN (east of Knoxville)
Obviously the A/T is less than desirable.
She didn't have this problem last year, so obviously something has gone amiss over the winter, but is it possible that it's a transmission issue ?
Ah, sorry didn't see the next page RR.
I was afraid of that. In other words, a possible apex or corner seal leak ?
She didn't have this problem last year, so obviously something has gone amiss over the winter, but is it possible that it's a transmission issue ?
Ah, sorry didn't see the next page RR.
I was afraid of that. In other words, a possible apex or corner seal leak ?
I don't want to continue this much further as we are kind of off -topic now and others will have a hard time finding this information.
However, the car has become harder to start and actually required the un-flooding procedure to get it started the last time. So I am thinking this points even more towards the Apex Seals ?
Thanks guys for all your help !!
However, the car has become harder to start and actually required the un-flooding procedure to get it started the last time. So I am thinking this points even more towards the Apex Seals ?
Thanks guys for all your help !!
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Joined: Oct 2003
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From: Morristown, TN (east of Knoxville)
I don't want to continue this much further as we are kind of off -topic now and others will have a hard time finding this information.
However, the car has become harder to start and actually required the un-flooding procedure to get it started the last time. So I am thinking this points even more towards the Apex Seals ?
Thanks guys for all your help !!
However, the car has become harder to start and actually required the un-flooding procedure to get it started the last time. So I am thinking this points even more towards the Apex Seals ?
Thanks guys for all your help !!
When one or both of those surfaces becomes worn unevenly, gaps develop and compression decreases slowly. At a certain threshold the weak compression begins to cause problems such as those you are encountering, although nothing has actually broken or catastrophically failed yet.
I am unsure why this is so hard to understand. Compression is formed primarily by the seal between apex seals and rotor housing surfaces. Of course corner and side seals vs. iron walls also contribute, however those surfaces do not wear much at all compared to the apex/rotorhousing combo, so it is okay to leave them out of the discussion.
When one or both of those surfaces becomes worn unevenly, gaps develop and compression decreases slowly. At a certain threshold the weak compression begins to cause problems such as those you are encountering, although nothing has actually broken or catastrophically failed yet.
When one or both of those surfaces becomes worn unevenly, gaps develop and compression decreases slowly. At a certain threshold the weak compression begins to cause problems such as those you are encountering, although nothing has actually broken or catastrophically failed yet.
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The only good automatic transmission in my opinion is a Mercedes-Benz trans. I had a 300TE and it hauled *** when you stomped it. It always was in the right gear climbing a hill.
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1) you actually have a decent auto transmission
and
2) you have an engine still with good enough compression that startup and idle difficulties are not concerns.
IF she's not lazy or technologically challenged, get her an 89-91 with the hold feature and tell her to drive it in manual mode. It's not that bad when you do that, assuming that
1) you actually have a decent auto transmission
and
2) you have an engine still with good enough compression that startup and idle difficulties are not concerns.
You are Correct... we both love the S5 style convertibles... I almost bought a blue 90 with 95k ($3500 obo)but when i get there, it was sitting at a shop, passenger side carpet pulled up.
(wished I didnt seen that) talk to the head mechanic.. 3800 hesitation (omp).. I offered him 1500$. No deal & I walked away. I guess we will stay in market for a AT S5
You are Correct... we both love the S5 style convertibles... I almost bought a blue 90 with 95k ($3500 obo)but when i get there, it was sitting at a shop, passenger side carpet pulled up.
(wished I didnt seen that) talk to the head mechanic.. 3800 hesitation (omp).. I offered him 1500$. No deal & I walked away. I guess we will stay in market for a AT S5
(wished I didnt seen that) talk to the head mechanic.. 3800 hesitation (omp).. I offered him 1500$. No deal & I walked away. I guess we will stay in market for a AT S5
As RR said if you find one with decent transmission and good combustion it really is ALMOST as much fun as the 5 speed.
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From: Morristown, TN (east of Knoxville)
You are Correct... we both love the S5 style convertibles... I almost bought a blue 90 with 95k ($3500 obo)but when i get there, it was sitting at a shop, passenger side carpet pulled up.
(wished I didnt seen that) talk to the head mechanic.. 3800 hesitation (omp).. I offered him 1500$. No deal & I walked away. I guess we will stay in market for a AT S5
(wished I didnt seen that) talk to the head mechanic.. 3800 hesitation (omp).. I offered him 1500$. No deal & I walked away. I guess we will stay in market for a AT S5
This post needs to be archieved. I just picked up a S5 NA 1990 auto with 56k miles, did a compression test, the motor shows 100+psi on both rotors all 3 faces. It does exactly everything RR mentioned. the car skips gear like crazy, it stalls in netural, reverse and drive. Basically I have to keep my foot on gas pedal the whole time to prevent it from stalling (this is my first auto RX7 and I had a hard time using both feet driving). Once it stalls, ill have a hard time starting it back up. One more thing is, everytime I floor or rev it past 3000rpm in neutral, the car temp will reach the red zone. I need a couple advises here.
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This post needs to be archieved. I just picked up a S5 NA 1990 auto with 56k miles, did a compression test, the motor shows 100+psi on both rotors all 3 faces. It does exactly everything RR mentioned. the car skips gear like crazy, it stalls in netural, reverse and drive. Basically I have to keep my foot on gas pedal the whole time to prevent it from stalling (this is my first auto RX7 and I had a hard time using both feet driving). Once it stalls, ill have a hard time starting it back up. One more thing is, everytime I floor or rev it past 3000rpm in neutral, the car temp will reach the red zone. I need a couple advises here.
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But, none of that really matters once you've made a trip or two to H on the gauge, because by the time the needle starts to move from the middle to the top it's already at 240+ and you've probably damaged one or more coolant seals. So even if you fix the external problem that may have been causing the overheat, the engine will never be right again (unless you're extremely lucky, or unless you're exaggerating about how hot it got).
I found out the car has wrong plugs, plug tips have rust and the car was running on water instead of coolant...... Also when I crank the motor, it splits a couple drops of water off the plug holes. Looks like rebuild time for me...
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Because over time it has been burning/pushing the antifreeze out due to a long term coolant seal issue, and the owner has been replacing it with water alone.
I can spot a coolant seal engine a mile away. Anytime you walk up to a car and find water in the cooling system with nearly no antifreeze, RTV all over the water pump and thermostat neck, a replacement radiator, a replacement coolant cap, a replacement upper radiator hose, and a trail of white or brown deposits coming from the thermostat neck and/or radiator fill neck, that's a dead giveaway that the engine has been having major coolant and overheating issues for a year or more and the owner has been trying to fix and/or bandaid it.
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