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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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anyone using HKS PFC-FCON?

i am about to buy an HKS PFC-FCON. i was wondering what u guys that use this think of it?
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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I'm using one, but it came with my car so I don't know the before and after... I do know that they run the hell outta your injectors
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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it's not worth the money ($1000 new!!!) much rather have a S-afc, even if the same price.
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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well im getting a used unit for 200 with the GCC also. when u say it runs the hell outta your injectors, do u mean u replace them frequently?
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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i used one and its great for what it is. if you get the gcc its abourt as good as a safc (better in some ways worse in others).

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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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i used one and its great for what it is. if you get the gcc its abourt as good as a safc (better in some ways worse in others).

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how is it better? how is it worse?
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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also is there a noticable difference in power?
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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I like the fcon more than the safc. With the safc you have a 2 dimension fuel map. With the fcon you have a 3 dimension fuel map.
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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how is it better? how is it worse?
its better because its not trying to trick the ecu, it actually goes between the ecu and injectors. its also a lot faster so the car runs better. the downside is that without the gcc you cant change injectors, and it doesnt have a cool blue screen

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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 01:52 AM
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Wow, where did you find one with GCC for that price? I am selling a same package (FCON, GCC, FCD, Boost sensor and all harnesses) but can't sell for that low ($200)! I would like to re-price my package. Please provide suggestion. Thanks.

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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 05:11 AM
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also is there a noticable difference in power?
no , but I can feel the car is running rich after installed
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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you can wire the safc into the PFCON, when i was installing my safc, apexi provided instructions on how to connect the safc o the PFCON.
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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no , but I can feel the car is running rich after installed
with the GCC, cant you compensate for that though?
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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also is anyone running at a higher boost pressure with the FCON?
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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i was running 11-13psi with mine, it was rich enough to stumble

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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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i was running 11-13psi with mine, it was rich enough to stumble

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were you running 11-13 psi without a boost controller?
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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Since you can run a SAFC with a PFCON
Does anyone know which is the better setup, assuming that the SAFC and the GCC cost the same

1) SAFC + PFCON
or
2) GCC + PFCON
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by rotary13bt
i was running 11-13psi with mine, it was rich enough to stumble

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were you running 11-13 psi without a boost controller?
the boost controller helped boost at the low end, up top it would do 11-13, with or without it

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