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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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Anyone using a "floor bar"?

Everytime I see one of these for sale, I cant help but think that it is completely worthless.. Maybe someone can enlighten me as to what, if anything, the point of one of these floor bars is. And if anyone is using one, could you tell any difference?

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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no...worthless...
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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no...worthless...
Please see the "atkins S/C" thread for a discussion about "worth"








Seriously tho...its got bling appeal. Furthermore, cusco also makes a bar that connects the same points on the body, and adds a third mounting point right in the middle that mounts to the shaft tunnel. must be good for some flex-relief...probably best if used in conjunction with all the other strut tower, lower arm bar **** they come out with.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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i think i read somewhere on this site that the doors were a weakpoint cause of their large size ... so wouldnt a floor bar add rigity to the area? plus it does look pretty good without really getting in the way of anything.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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Crap junk.


Mmmmaybe good for bolting another cup-holder to it.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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i dont know its worth. if it holds down flexing, cool.
bling factor? i dont find it appealing, but thats up to concensus. i mean, some people think that "go-fast" looking parts are cool and other people that think they're cool might be like "whoa, cool!" doesn't appeal to me without purpose.
cup holder? heh, if only it werent so far behind you. how about bolting in some rear seats and using the bar like a ride at six flags (or whatever amusement parks you people have). the kids will love it.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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ok... anyone have a picture/explanation to where this would go???? It is quite confusing to me
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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behind your front seats (in the car). the hump goes over the hump in the rear (over the driveshaft).
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:19 AM
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Mmmmaybe good for bolting another cup-holder to it.
That right there would be a big selling point for me on that one. Just kidding I like to drive around with soda on the open glove box lid.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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That right there would be a big selling point for me on that one. Just kidding I like to drive around with soda on the open glove box lid.
haha, me too. probably everyone else. or, if its got a cap, i set it between my seat and the door.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:50 AM
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it prevents twisting of the frame. That section on the FC is notoriously weak. Of course you'll be better with a cage, but a floor bar can help and is not as obtrusive.

If you frequently drive your car hard, it takes it's toll on the chassis. This is why race teams frequently change chassis after several seasons. No matter what, the structural rigidity of a car chassis will be compromised over time...if it can be reduced in the key areas that are known weaknesses on a car, it is worth buying.

If two cars raced with the same horsepower, same weight, same level driver...just that one had a stock chassis and the other was reinforced, you would find the stock chassis vehicle would have more chassis wear, and it would more than likely lose to the other car.

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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it prevents twisting of the frame. That section on the FC is notoriously weak. Of course you'll be better with a cage, but a floor bar can help and is not as obtrusive.

If you frequently drive your car hard, it takes it's toll on the chassis. This is why race teams frequently change chassis after several seasons. No matter what, the structural rigidity of a car chassis will be compromised over time...if it can be reduced in the key areas that are known weaknesses on a car, it is worth buying.

If two cars raced with the same horsepower, same weight, same level driver...just that one had a stock chassis and the other was reinforced, you would find the stock chassis vehicle would have more chassis wear, and it would more than likely lose to the other car.
Hmm .. interesting. I dont think anyone is going to argue your point, that is why the majority of us (me anyway..) are running front and rear strut bars, lower arm bars, etc.. It just seems to me that the placement of this bar wouldnt do much of anything.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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I understand that they are very worthwhile in a vert.
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 03:36 AM
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i would say its a worthy mod cause it does serve a purpose and to me it does look good (but that my opinion) since getting a roll cage would be impractical to me this is a better option
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by jhillyer
Crap junk.


Mmmmaybe good for bolting another cup-holder to it.
Dood, what you mean "another?" I am gonna get one just to weld on a cup holder! j/k, but these bars are positively a waste of weight. They serve no purpose, just get a rear strut tower brace if anything for inside the car.
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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it prevents twisting of the frame. That section on the FC is notoriously weak. Of course you'll be better with a cage, but a floor bar can help and is not as obtrusive.

Adding a bar to two mounts on the floor is not going to help this...not even a little bit. The stress on the chassis is going be at the top of the frame and work it's way down. It's not the floor that's weak in a vehicle's structural strength...it's the walls and joints between the walls and the top/bottom. Reinforcing the floor, which is what this bar does, will help structural rigidity none.

Plus, with those bends in the middle it's going to do nothing but bow under any kind of stress.

An effective floor bar will mount where this one does, then to the two seatbelt mounts on the tranny tunnel, and then two bars will travel from the tranny tunnel to the halfway up (or higher) the walls of the car.

Floor bars are nothing but bling factor.
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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I understand that they are very worthwhile in a vert.
I doubt you would even notice it in the vert. The verts side to side structure (where the bins are located on coupes) is radically more built up and stonger than a coupes.

The only reason for that bar would be for the coupes weak middle structure.
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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I think a roll bar would work much better
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