...for a s5 GXL?

Just got a ticket (56 in a 35) and am trying to find a way to fight it.. Did a search but didn't find anything... =\

-ZenFox

 

I got 7.8 for the 89-90 GXL 0-60 and the quarter mile in 16.2 @86.4MPH

 

well he said 60-0

isn't it like 130 or 150 feet or something?

 

How do you get a ticket for doing 56 in a 35? And how are you going to justify fighting that?

 

I think it was like 145 or something
How would that help you fight the ticket?

 

The street is a main arterial. It's 5 lanes and larger than I-5 is in some areas. It's very.. and I mean VERY common for cars to "speed" on it, which is not hard given the pedestrian 35 mile per hour speed limit. It's not like I was going 56 down a single lane residential neighborhood with children and puppies playing as a zoom by. I'm not even sure if pedestrians exist in Bellevue...

I should also mention that this is my first speeding ticket ever. ^_^

As for how it would be useful, I had a theory but I'm not sure if it'll pan out. My idea was to take the location that the officer cited me going 56 miles, measure the distance to the corner and then imply that if I was going that speed I would have to be breaking very hard or I was not going that speed, at which point I would try to point to equipment failure or interference with the trees which were directly behind my car...

I'm not saying it would work.. I'm just saying it's an idea and I've got 14 days to figure out if I'm going to mitigate or challenge it so any ideas help. ^_^

-ZenFox

 

You can't fight the ticket so to say, but there are loopholes.

The main one you can use is if he radar'ed you. The records on the officer are publicly available if you ask for them. What you want is documents on the last time the officers radar gun was calibrated. While the time limit varies from state to state, theres a good chance his calibration is expired and that WILL get you out of the ticket.

Hope that helps.

 

there are plenty of loopholes in seattle.... you can
1. make the court date and reschedule, then reschedule, then reschedule again. pretty soon he cop will not show up and it will be a mistrial, thus your ticket will not count.

2. lets say the ticket is for $68. you pay $78 and the DMV sends you back a check for $10, throw that away and dont cash it. this will result in a "non-completed transaction" and you insurance company will not find out about it (but you still have to pay)

3. the last one is the new law in washington that you can get a ticket and if you do not get one for exactly one year later, it is dropped.

 

I go 80 on a 25 in a residential all the time hehe .. no kids in sight though. Ive gone 64 on a 30. I got it cleared by a lawyer. I live in bellevue by the way and go to seattle every other week. If you want to get rid of that ticket by using a lawyer like I do, its 350 bucks. The lawyer I use is gennie mucklestone. Go to www.mucklestone.com and talk to her about how to mail your ticket in, and tell her that Henry P. refered you hehe. (im a good customer) or if you wanna challenge it yourself its gonna be hard for going that fast. (the judge wont be happy) but basicly 88 se is right. Records of speed gun/ calibration. Another way is look profesional hehe and bring lots of pictures and a diagram of where the officer was, were you were etc and give them your point of view/story. Its ussualy best to ask for a speed gun right when he gives you a ticket. As far as pedestrians in bellevue .. yes there are plenty.. like dumb kids that like to cross the street while your driving 30 mph infront of you and laugh! .. (I wanna knock the kid in the head with my nuckles.)
good luck.

 

Both of those are false. While there is a chance the cop will not show up, most states only allow you one extension to your court date, after that, you are SOL.

The second one is also a myth. The IT guy in charge of the computer system that let that bug in software stick would have his *** fired so fast... Any such glitch in the software would have been found and corrected, if it existed at all.

You must also remember every municipality uses its own system and software. It is HIGHLY unlikely that an exploit for one system would work on another.

Also to the 3rd one, I remember there bieng some restrictions. The ticket will NOT drop after a year if it's something severe like hit and run or criminal speeding (which is 20 or more mph in most states)

 

no, see they do work because i have tried all 3 of them. you are from arizona, i am from washington.

 

... *evil grin* Oh.... I like that... I like that a lot. *creepy maniacal laughter* >

Any more info on this method? ....the cop was an *** too, so my ethics would allow me to take revenge on him in this manner... heck... my ethics would allow me to revel in the thought of him finding out the court date has been rescheduled again for the 5th time....

Yeah.. I'm really going to try to avoid this outcome. The guy is trying to get me for $200. So, I like the first one better.

That's what my friend did (and he was doing like 120 in a 55) and what I'll do if worse comes to worse.

I'm going to request the documents in a day or two when I go to file a complaint against him for his conduct during the stop.

-ZenFox

 

Sorry but the second one is a total lie. Like I said, the bug in the software that allowed that would have long vanished by now. The programmer that left such a bug in, if it ever existed, would have had his *** in a vice.

With all the people that supposedly know of and use this loophole, they would have caught it when they noticed a few thousand tickets never bieng paid because the offender paid too much and got a refund check.

Lets also remember that government issued checks usually expire after 30-90 days. So after the check expired, it would of course, be a complete transaction, doesnt matter if you cashed the check or not. And the ticket would be onto your record.


Something else to consider, if it's your first ticket, many states allow you to take a traffic school of some sorts to get the ticket dropped. The traffic school also tends to be cheaper. something to look into. ( I suppose the no tickets after a year thing in washington would fall into this category )

 

you may be right, it was a long time ago i used this. (pre total computerization), but the 1 and 3 work

 

i got a 72 in a 30 in front of arizona stadium in tucson when i went to the university. the cop said i must have really good brakes b/c he shot me 3 times and said i went from 72 to 35 pretty damn fast....luckily he didnt give me criminal speeding b/c he saw why i was speeding(stupid sorority girl cut me off so i passed her and took 2nd gear waaaay over the redline to show her the flames)

 

Thanks for the advice. I'll check them out. I'm also going to try to have lunch with my neighbor and the parent of a friend from high school.. both of which are lawyers. If anything they'll let me use their law library.

As for the speed gun, yeah.. but as I said: First speeding ticket ever. I had no idea.

-ZenFox

 

Yea cops here arent bad at all. Most of the Phoenix area cops wont bother writing you a ticket, or if they do, they will reduce it.

Just watch out for the state police ( DPS ). they are genuine ********. One of them actually gave me a ticket for having window tint that was too dark

 

and back to the subject of this thread... i dont have the actual numbers but after reading up on car and driver about the 1988 t2, they found response, speed, handling, etc to be all well above average, but the braking was a little lacking. im sure you can find it online.

 

You never know.... You don't know Seattle. We can't even get the lights timed, so having a bug that never gets fixed doesn't seem out of the question. That said, I'm not going to do this method.

The traffic school idea might work. I'm going to check into my option tomorrow.

-ZenFox

 

Yo,


Go throw a trashcan through a McDonald's window...that's what Seattle natives do when they want to fight injustice...right?

*grin*

Kevin
1989 GTUs "Fight the WTO! *smash* *loot*"

 

a: it was Starbucks. The only Mickey's in downtown at that time would have loved to have had a trashcan thrown in it, but it was so nasty at the time that no one would go close enough. (They re-did the place.. now they have what amounts to a bouncer... I sh!+ you not.)

b: That was the WTO thing.. Most of the people there were from Oregon or somewhere else...

c: When it was over, a healthy chunk of them couldn't afford the bus back and stayed. *grrr*

-ZenFox

 

It all boils down to the fact that you were speeding. And just because everyone else does it, doesn't make it any less illegal.

Speeding to get somewhere faster just isn't worth it (unless you're on a long *** road trip). It doesn't really save you that much time and the risks (tickets, more wear and tear, worse gas mileage, accidents..etc) just aren't worth the rewards. Now short acceleration blasts are fun and I do those all the time. But I always make sure the man in blue isn't around. And remember, don't go hauling *** past bridges, dividers, hills and other great hiding spots. I'm sure after paying a $200.00 ticket you will have learned your lesson. Stick to the 5-9mph over and don't drive like an ***.

 

i don't know if the city of seattle is different, but in des moines (just a couple miles south of seattle) an officer doesn't have to show up in court. he merely has to write a statement for the judge about his point of view of the incident. so the thing with the cop not showing up might not work.

and if you get pulled over again and the cop is in anyway an *******, write down his badge number and let him see you do it. gives them an instant attitude adjustment.

 

lol, now thats what im talking about!

 

True, but I'm still going to fight this ticket. The officer was unprofessional and I'm going to see what I can do to make sure that it doesn't stick. I was "speeding" in the sense that I was above the speed limit. I was not "speeding" as in weaving through traffic at 70 miles an hour during rush hour.

-ZenFox