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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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Anyone have information on the MICROTECH EMS units?

Information on these EMS computers seems to be hard to come by. and they are relativly inexpensive which makes me think if its that good or not
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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i would also like to know, ryde or die trying to talk to people on aus fourms, so maybe he'll come back and show us the way..

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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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Yup the AUS boys are the ones to talk too. They seem to have been using Microtech for years now with a fair deal of success.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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Check out this site:
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Or just PMrxeng on here.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 01:04 AM
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dude if you want to stuff about microtech talk to 10sec rx7 hes usually hanging round the ecu forum
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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thanks guys ill talk to those ppl and keep a look out for some other info in the web
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Yep they are the ones I am talking to right now. Good people
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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ya i emailed them and got a quick informative responce
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:32 AM
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Another microtech man is MVA Motorsports (Marco Acosta) he's been tuning them for years, and is one of the top drag racers in the world.

As far as I have heard, they are just as good as a comparable haltech unit, and sometimes even better. I plan on getting a Microtech this coming fall, unless I stumble across a Haltech selling for even less.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 04:32 AM
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Here is some info I read in the Haltech section of the forum...Things that make me go hmmmmmm......

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Cheap ECU's equal cheap mapping. If you want to keep the bugs out you use a fly screen, not a fishnet. You want your engine running perfect you use a fine map not a course one.

I had a great demonstration to show two Swift Turbo owners a few weeks ago. One running a new Microtech MT-8, the other running a now old Haltech E6A (circa 1995). Both cars running identical turbo motors and injector sizes, with the general setup of the cars being very much the same. I have my UEGO AF Meter connected and I get a nice chance to show the difference.

MT8 car is idling on 11.2:1 , which is very rich. Click the handset a single point leaner and it drops to 14.9:1 and the car stumbles and runs rough. What options are there but to run it at 11.2:1 at idle. Rich and idling but not completely happy. Expect to foul plugs with extended idling time.

E6A car is next. Starts with 11.8:1 at idle. First step leaner, 11.9:1, next 12.1:1 , next 12.3:1 ...... etc.. etc....
The car purrs , and runs clean. MT8 man is surprised and gets to learn that there is a big difference between cheap ECU's and good ECU's.

I believe the people that swear by the cheaper systems have never seen what a good system can do to a car. I would also be wary of any workshops that insist that the cheaper ECU's are the best. Most of the time these ECU's are pushed because they are simple to get running with little computer knowledge required, they get the car out of the workshop quicker, and the return on making the sale is rather good. If they are willing to skimp on the ECU, what else in the engine build are the skimping on. Just something to think about....
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They are cheap

Best value? depends what features you are after? They are popular here for the above mentioned reasons.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 05:59 AM
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Thats why I went HMMMMM.... I want to be able to tune my car for driveability also, the very course idle setting has me very concerned....
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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ya ide like to see the same thing threwout the rpm range and under boost
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
Here is some info I read in the Haltech section of the forum...Things that make me go hmmmmmm......

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Cheap ECU's equal cheap mapping. If you want to keep the bugs out you use a fly screen, not a fishnet. You want your engine running perfect you use a fine map not a course one.

I had a great demonstration to show two Swift Turbo owners a few weeks ago. One running a new Microtech MT-8, the other running a now old Haltech E6A (circa 1995). Both cars running identical turbo motors and injector sizes, with the general setup of the cars being very much the same. I have my UEGO AF Meter connected and I get a nice chance to show the difference.

MT8 car is idling on 11.2:1 , which is very rich. Click the handset a single point leaner and it drops to 14.9:1 and the car stumbles and runs rough. What options are there but to run it at 11.2:1 at idle. Rich and idling but not completely happy. Expect to foul plugs with extended idling time.

E6A car is next. Starts with 11.8:1 at idle. First step leaner, 11.9:1, next 12.1:1 , next 12.3:1 ...... etc.. etc....
The car purrs , and runs clean. MT8 man is surprised and gets to learn that there is a big difference between cheap ECU's and good ECU's.

I believe the people that swear by the cheaper systems have never seen what a good system can do to a car. I would also be wary of any workshops that insist that the cheaper ECU's are the best. Most of the time these ECU's are pushed because they are simple to get running with little computer knowledge required, they get the car out of the workshop quicker, and the return on making the sale is rather good. If they are willing to skimp on the ECU, what else in the engine build are the skimping on. Just something to think about....
Too many factors involved to take this at face value.
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