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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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anybody have these headlights?

anybody have these? i was thinkin about getting some so i can start using the H4 bulbs...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

they look decent but i'm kinda skeptical about buying them. does anyone have pics of them on their car?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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not that style but I have the diamond cut style ones from ebay.

Don't use the bubls that comes with them. They are almost always illegal and will get you pulled over(I know ;( )

They work fine with good blubls usually.

A tip would be park your car against a wall or garage door.

Turn the headlights on and mark the wall,etc where the beams are.

Once the new lights are in make sure to adjust the beams to that same spot so you don't blind people.



Mine are a little high but it makes the slow bastards move out of the speeding lane
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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I also have diamond cut style ones from ebay. Here are some pics.







I'm also using sylvania silverstars and they are a good improvement over stock.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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All those aftermarket lights suck *** big time. If you want to use H4 bulbs go with the Hella unit or the ones from Raybrig. They put out really good beam of light on the road. Those other light systems you are looking at suck big time, don't waste your money on them. Spend the extra little money and get a Hella or Raybrig sealed beam replacement head light.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Just wanted to add one more thing. Dealing with lights you totally get what you pay for. If you are going to pay $20 bucks or so on ebay for a set of generic lights. You are going to get light that put out $20 worth of light. the light systems that i suggested have a high quality metal reflector in them and they reflector is aimed correctlly at the road. All those other light systems are just for looks not performance.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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Yep, avoid the crap on eBay. Stick with the big names and you can't go wrong. Lighting design is far more complex than most people realise, which almost always means cheap = crap. And how they look means absolutely nothing.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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do any of the big name companies make projector housings like the ones in that auction?
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
Lighting design is far more complex than most people realise


Any other drafters/engineers want to go into a corner with me and cry about parabolic light defraction curves?

That was a bloody hard chapter of our books, I'm glad I'm done with it..
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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I'm thinking about picking up a set of those off ebay, the projector ones, and see just how they do. Ya know if one has no experience with a particular housing, how can they say that they suck? First hand experiences are all that count when dealing with stuff like this. Maybe they suck and I'm out 40 bux for the set...I'll pass them off on some other unsuspecting person who feels like experimenting and cut my losses a little, or maybe they actually throw a nice pattern and I got an awesome deal. Don't be afraid to try new stuff on your car, I mean it's just a light, not an APC brand E-shaft ya know!, you aren't going to screw over your entire car from trying them out.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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You think an e-shaft is more difficult to design than an effective headlight? Like I said, lighting design is far more complex than most people realise, and that obviously includes you. And there's every chance you could "screw over your entire car " due to poor lighting. That should be obvious.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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You think an e-shaft is more difficult to design than an effective headlight? Like I said, lighting design is far more complex than most people realise, and that obviously includes you. And there's every chance you could "screw over your entire car " due to poor lighting. That should be obvious.
I didn't say an e-shaft was easier to design, now did I? what I meant is that if you are simply trying out a part like a headlight and it turns out to be lame it is easy to swap it right back out, but with more involved things like engine parts, if they turn out to be lame it is a pain in the *** or could cause major damage. If you put in a new headlight housing and turn them on, you will instantly know if they are any good or not. If you see a good light patern and output, you are good to go and drive like a responsible adult, by not outdriving your lights like a fool. But if you see a bad pattern or poor output, you should have the brains to remove them and not go out driving like a fool at night or in the rain, knowing that your lights suck. If you are testing new lights and you just jump in and go outdrive your lights you almost deserve to screw up your car and probably yourself as well.

And dude, you have no idea who i am so don't go around thinking that you are so damn great saying ...

"lighting design is far more complex than most people realise, and that obviously includes you"

Man, why be an ***, you have no idea how much I know about lighting! It's rude and self ego boosting comments like that that just make you sound like a jerk. This kind of action usually makes people dislike you and not want to listen to your advise because you are "obviously" full of yourself.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by My Junx
I didn't say an e-shaft was easier to design, now did I?
No, you implied that there was nothing complex about headlight design when you said "it's just a light, not an APC brand E-shaft", even if you didn't mean to. My apologies if I misunderstood you, but it sounded like you think headlight design is a simple task.

Judging by the amount of cheap, crappy headlights for sale on eBay (which wouldn't be there if they didn't sell), many people seem to think that these will be of similar quality to more expensive name-brand units. The reason they cost more is not only better materials and construction methods, but also the R&D that goes into making sure they put the right amount of light in the right place. It'd be foolish to think that the manufacturers of the stuff on eBay are able to design and built to the same level of quality, but only need to charge half as much.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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ive been looking for a place to buy raybrig houseings all they ahve around here is the Hella and Bosche (which I have and love)
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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yeah I agree that the development is most likely just not there on the cheap lights, but if you do it responsibly it's worth a try if the price is right. Don't make a comitment based of price though.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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i have similar ones, but they have a halo surround on them as well. with the new h4 bulbs, i can see way better than stock.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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What's 40 bucks?! Try it! Let me know how they do and then I can buy some! Unless they really really SUCK! All this over headlights...DAMN!?
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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If you look carefully you can see the power of the "projector" lens is very low. Far too low to properly project. It is only there for looks and will not function as a true projector beam. Also, the lens is placed in a very poor location, and not in the focus of the housing lens.

Hmm 20 bux shipping
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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Again people, you get what you pay for. If you're content with something that does not really have function but looks slightly better than stock, get the made in Taiwan 'MIT' ricer garbage.

If you want something that was engineered, tested, and proven to work, then spend the money and get a quality product. You'll be happier in the end.

I'm using Raybrig H4 housings and they are excellent.
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