Another TII tranny in N/A question.... STARTER NOT WORKING
10-06-05, 01:21 AM
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Another TII tranny in N/A question.... STARTER NOT WORKING
Ok guys, I hope someone here can help. I am trying to get the race car ready for seven stock and ran into a little problem.
This question is part 2 of https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...o+clutch+N%2FA I didnt want to start there as i didnt want people think i was asking the first question anymore
ok now for the question.
I have a N/A engine, more importantly an N/A flywheel that i have installed a Turbo II tranny into.
I did se the special Racing beat clutch http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=12525 that allows you to use the N/A flywheel, and the TII tranny.
My problem is the starter, If i use the TII starter like i have been told, then the starter DOES NOT engage the ring on the flywheel. it spins and spins and spins, i even removed it and bench tested it to make sure the teeth were moving forward. If i try to use the N/A starter, it will not even bolt up, so i KNOW i am not to use the N/A starter.
I am at a lost here, of all the stuff i have done to this car this week alone to get it ready for seven stock, and an upcoming race (belive me it's a lot) i sure did not expect to get hung up with the damn starter.
Please if anyone knows why the TurboII starter is not working in the TurboII tranny with an N/A flywheel (like i have been told will work, even by racing beat) then please speak up. thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
for those of you that want more info:
N/A engine
N/A flywheel
Racing Beat special clutch
N/A pressure plate
TurboII tranny
TurboII starter
TurboII driveshaft
TurboII rearend
This question is part 2 of https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...o+clutch+N%2FA I didnt want to start there as i didnt want people think i was asking the first question anymore
ok now for the question.
I have a N/A engine, more importantly an N/A flywheel that i have installed a Turbo II tranny into.
I did se the special Racing beat clutch http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....rtNumber=12525 that allows you to use the N/A flywheel, and the TII tranny.
My problem is the starter, If i use the TII starter like i have been told, then the starter DOES NOT engage the ring on the flywheel. it spins and spins and spins, i even removed it and bench tested it to make sure the teeth were moving forward. If i try to use the N/A starter, it will not even bolt up, so i KNOW i am not to use the N/A starter.
I am at a lost here, of all the stuff i have done to this car this week alone to get it ready for seven stock, and an upcoming race (belive me it's a lot) i sure did not expect to get hung up with the damn starter.
Please if anyone knows why the TurboII starter is not working in the TurboII tranny with an N/A flywheel (like i have been told will work, even by racing beat) then please speak up. thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
for those of you that want more info:
N/A engine
N/A flywheel
Racing Beat special clutch
N/A pressure plate
TurboII tranny
TurboII starter
TurboII driveshaft
TurboII rearend
10-06-05, 03:02 AM
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You have to have a turbo flywheel. Period. That clutch doesn't make it so you can use the N/A flywheel. YOU MUST HAVE A TURBO FLYWHEEL. The teeth don't match up from the starter to the flywheel. Trust me. Look at the mods in the sig.
There is absolutely nothing in that Racing Beat part discription that says you can still use the N/A flywheel. It must, MUST, be a Turbo flywheel.
N/A engine
TII flywheel
TII pressure plate
Clutch can be for either
TII slave cyl
TII transmission
TII driveshaft
TII rear-end
TII half-shafts
That is exactly the set-up in my car and it sounds like that is the set-up you are looking for. If you buy the ACT you can purchase the counterweight that you need or buy an auto trans counterweight from someone here. The N/A pressure plate will not be big enough, you also need a TII pressure plate.
There is absolutely nothing in that Racing Beat part discription that says you can still use the N/A flywheel. It must, MUST, be a Turbo flywheel.
N/A engine
TII flywheel
TII pressure plate
Clutch can be for either
TII slave cyl
TII transmission
TII driveshaft
TII rear-end
TII half-shafts
That is exactly the set-up in my car and it sounds like that is the set-up you are looking for. If you buy the ACT you can purchase the counterweight that you need or buy an auto trans counterweight from someone here. The N/A pressure plate will not be big enough, you also need a TII pressure plate.
10-06-05, 03:59 AM
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As was said above, the N/A flywheel will not work with a starter on the tII tranny. I really don't even know why they sell that clutch that uses the TII splines, maybe for people using a custom bell housing or something, but anyway, looks like you're in need of a TII flywheel!
10-06-05, 10:14 AM
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CRAP!
not that i dont trust you, but then why does the clutch on there web site say "(for use with 1983-92 non-turbo flywheel and 87-91 turbo transmission)" this would (and did) make me think that it's for using the N/A flywheel and the TII tranny.
other wise like the guy above stated, i dont see why they would even sell the clutch if it does not do what they promised.
arrrrrgggghhhhhh.......
not that i dont trust you, but then why does the clutch on there web site say "(for use with 1983-92 non-turbo flywheel and 87-91 turbo transmission)" this would (and did) make me think that it's for using the N/A flywheel and the TII tranny.
other wise like the guy above stated, i dont see why they would even sell the clutch if it does not do what they promised.
arrrrrgggghhhhhh.......
10-06-05, 10:17 AM
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Well, quite honestly, it *DOES* work with the transmission.... the problem is the starter doesn't work with the flywheel. You can push start it and drive it around all day long if you wanted, but unless they sell some custom starter, you're pretty much screwed.
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I just called Racing Beat. they said that YES the clutch is to allow you to run the N/A flywheel with a TurboII tranny, and the guy was pretty sure that you have to use the N/A starter, not the TurboII starter.
I explained to him that the N/A starter hits the tranny, he said that i should call back in an hour and a half to talk to one of the techs. He was really cool about it.
anways, i will try what ever they say, and if that does not work i will just have to find a turbo flywheel, and clutch.
Just does not make sense to me why it wouldent work when they say it does. i mean cone on, it's racing beat, it's not like they dont know what they are doing.
I explained to him that the N/A starter hits the tranny, he said that i should call back in an hour and a half to talk to one of the techs. He was really cool about it.
anways, i will try what ever they say, and if that does not work i will just have to find a turbo flywheel, and clutch.
Just does not make sense to me why it wouldent work when they say it does. i mean cone on, it's racing beat, it's not like they dont know what they are doing.
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As I said earlier, of course it's to allow the use of a TII tranny on an N/A flywheel, the problem is, it doesn't seem that they've though much about what to do for a starter when using the stock bell housing, because the N/A one doesn't fit, and the TII one won't work (as you've found out), thus, it kind of makes the disc pointless, unless you push start, or they have some aftermarket starter/mod that makes the N/A one work.
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Whatever they are smoking down at Racing Beat... I want some.
I think what they mean to say is that the clutch is for either a N/A or Turbo. They just have it written really weird.
I think what they mean to say is that the clutch is for either a N/A or Turbo. They just have it written really weird.
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*****I explained to him that the N/A starter hits the tranny, he said that i should call back in an hour and a half to talk to one of the techs. He was really cool about it.***********
he be cool, but he be ignoramus. It ain't a gonna work as is. The ad at RB assumes the reader knows a lot about n/a flywheels/starters vs turbo flywheels/starters. To much assumin a goin on.
he be cool, but he be ignoramus. It ain't a gonna work as is. The ad at RB assumes the reader knows a lot about n/a flywheels/starters vs turbo flywheels/starters. To much assumin a goin on.
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