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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 09:06 PM
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Question air-pump removal

i heard that if you gut the cat. then you have no use for the air pumo and can remove it, is this true?? if so how would this affect my car?
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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if you have an 89-91 N/A you still need it.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 11:52 PM
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i have an 87 N/A...is it still important?
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 01:14 AM
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No It's not Impotant. You still have to have the Auxilliary Ports functionable. Although you are free to do as you may, please don't "wire them open". You really lose more than you gain IMO. You may wanna try this. https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=121833
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 02:52 AM
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what would it hurt if I jes plugged the port on the intake that the pump feeds?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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what would it hurt if I jes plugged the port on the intake that the pump feeds?
lol, Yes, It would. You'd have a bad hesitation at 3800 rpm from the ports not opening to allow more airflow. I'm going to be going with pineapple sleeves ( www.pineappleracing.com) and a streetport when my engine gets rebuilt.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Crap! I meant to say yes- you need the Air Pump. Otherwise you'll smoke the Cat(s).

Why if you have an 89-91 N/A you still need it? I don't get It. 86-88 Is no different.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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i thought the 86-88 used the airpump for the 6th port actuators.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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Ok lets set this straight:

All TIIs: only need air pump to supply fresh air to cat

86-88 NAs: only need air pump to supply fresh air to cat

89-91 NAs: need air pump to supply fresh air to cat, but cat also opens the aux. ports(ie: 5th & 6th ports)
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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s4 uses back pressure, s5 uses the air pump.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
Ok lets set this straight:

All TIIs: only need air pump to supply fresh air to cat

86-88 NAs: only need air pump to supply fresh air to cat

89-91 NAs: need air pump to supply fresh air to cat, but cat also opens the aux. ports(ie: 5th & 6th ports)
So according to this, I can completely ditch the Air pump, run headers and a cat back with no cat's, AND still have the intake ports open/close properly? how do they work if that stuff is missing?
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by f1blueRx7


So according to this, I can completely ditch the Air pump, run headers and a cat back with no cat's, AND still have the intake ports open/close properly? how do they work if that stuff is missing?

you might not have enough exhuast back pressure to open them.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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Actually, from what I've seen, most exhausts have enough to make it work, but you'll need some kind of tube to connect the exhaust to the actuators. RB has their presilencer which comes with the tube attached. Not worth the $$$ for that piece if you ask me.

The smog pump can also be rigged to make the 6 ports work and not have any other function. I'm runing that set up right now but think it might be more weight saving to go with backpressure opperation and just make the flange to tap the exhaust and fit it in between the test pipe and header.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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So according to this, I can completely ditch the Air pump, run headers and a cat back with no cat's, AND still have the intake ports open/close properly? how do they work if that stuff is missing?
First, I don't know what kind of car you have. Second, no you can't do that(I assume you have an S4 NA). The S4 NAs aux. ports open using backpressure, which you would not have very much of. I was only referring to what the airpump is used for in each model/year.
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