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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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aftermarket undertray's (bellypan)

Anyone know of an aftermarket undertray (bellypan). I've been looking for a while now and I have one I've made myself but I'm not too keen on my own craftsmanship. Thanks
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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would like to know aswell.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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no one will make one yet everyone talks about them being made. there is demand, yet no one is willing to make a stamp and mass produce these.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Well what would you like it made out of? plastic? Aluminum? Carbon Fiber? FRP?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Well i spoke about it in one of my other threads with no luck and noone has come threw yet im going to be giving a shot of making my own and maybe ill make a few extra ill take pics once everything works out
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Well what would you like it made out of? plastic? Aluminum? Carbon Fiber? FRP?
CF or anything else would need a mold, but aluminum would be the best.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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honestly aluminum/sheet steel or some sort or plastic would be ideal, keep it cheap and durable. If anyone ends up making these or at least makes some sort of template let me know. I'm sure there is a lot of interest out there.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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there is, but there is no interest to replicate these.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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I have been pondering going to lowes/home depot and making one out of sheet aluminum, and adding an underbelly diffuser maybe, but it has been just a thought so far.

I daily drive my FC since I sold my Camry, so I haven't had time to pull the tray off and get anything going.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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FC guys are too cheap to buy anything legit and plus folks run a variety of front ends. The combination of a diffuse AND frugal market means no-one's stepping up to make anything.

It's pretty much DIY or nothing.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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I don't think its about us being cheap as much as no one really caring about the advantages of the under tray. People spend money on body kits and wheels all the time, no one cares about having a cleaner engine bay or less aerodynamic drag.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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well while we are on the subject what all does this undertray need to cover and what exactly does it do?
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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well while we are on the subject what all does this undertray need to cover and what exactly does it do?
Besides preventing **** from flying up into your belts/fan, it plays a major role in directing air through the radiator. Your car will overheat without it.

I personally would buy a replacement if available. Mine has several cracks and is held together by duct tape in one place.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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anyone ends up making these or at least makes some sort of template let me know.
i have a tempate! mazda made it and it came with the car
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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Besides preventing **** from flying up into your belts/fan, it plays a major role in directing air through the radiator. Your car will overheat without it.
Not true at all. It does help cooling to the radiator but your car will NEVER overheat without it if all other parts of the cooling system are operating properly. I ran without one for over 3 years, 2 of those NA and one 6 port turbo. I've driven the **** out of the car redlining third and fourth and never had a cooling problem.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Not true at all. It does help cooling to the radiator but your car will NEVER overheat without it if all other parts of the cooling system are operating properly. I ran without one for over 3 years, 2 of those NA and one 6 port turbo. I've driven the **** out of the car redlining third and fourth and never had a cooling problem.
Well if you're driving fast enough, sure it's not going to overheat. Redlining third and fourth I would consider to be fast enough.
But just after I rebuilt my NA engine, I forgot to put the pan back on and left it idling in the driveway for some break in and found my temp needle had risen to about 2/3 up. Now this may not be "overheated" but it was definitely way too hot for sitting at an idle.
I would conclude that at higher speeds, the pan isn't going to make too much of a difference, but if daily driving around town, it's going to cause problems.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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Well if you're driving fast enough, sure it's not going to overheat. Redlining third and fourth I would consider to be fast enough.
But just after I rebuilt my NA engine, I forgot to put the pan back on and left it idling in the driveway for some break in and found my temp needle had risen to about 2/3 up. Now this may not be "overheated" but it was definitely way too hot for sitting at an idle.
I would conclude that at higher speeds, the pan isn't going to make too much of a difference, but if daily driving around town, it's going to cause problems.
When your idling the undertray really isnt doing much of anything IMO. The undertray is there to direct air towards the rad while in motion. I have had no undertray for quite some time. S4 N/A with electric temp gauge tee into the BAC coolant hose. NEVER higher than 185.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Well if you're driving fast enough, sure it's not going to overheat. Redlining third and fourth I would consider to be fast enough.
But just after I rebuilt my NA engine, I forgot to put the pan back on and left it idling in the driveway for some break in and found my temp needle had risen to about 2/3 up. Now this may not be "overheated" but it was definitely way too hot for sitting at an idle.
I would conclude that at higher speeds, the pan isn't going to make too much of a difference, but if daily driving around town, it's going to cause problems.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but what the **** would an undertray have to do with your temps at idle?
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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When your idling the undertray really isnt doing much of anything IMO. The undertray is there to direct air towards the rad while in motion. I have had no undertray for quite some time. S4 N/A with electric temp gauge tee into the BAC coolant hose. NEVER higher than 185.
LOL whats up nick, we posted at the same time haha. And BULLSHIT about your temps... ha.
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LOL whats up nick, we posted at the same time haha. And BULLSHIT about your temps... ha.
Hey hey hey my OLD mecanical temp gauge with coolant leaks made it go higher. Few weeks ago i fixed 3 SMALL coolant leaks at once. No more leaks, all new coolant lines!(besides upper rad hose) You know i got the electric temp gauge and if you come it my car you can see it barely will go above 180 I just put a bomex rear bumper on and also loving my new exhaust setup.
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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someone on here made a nice aluminum undertray not too long ago with tons of pics, turned out real legit...
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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http://www.rotorsportsracing.com/per...g/exterior.htm
Scroll down about 3/4 way.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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Thanks, rw-7
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Mazda made an aluminum undertray. my 88 GTU came with it.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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any part number to go off of?
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