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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Aftermarket boost vs factory boost

Tried the search, didn't really find an answer.

My question is. I'm tring to find a correlation between an aftermarket boost gauge and the factory boost gauge.

Example:
0 on aftermarket = 0 on factory
5-6psi on aftermarket = about halfway up on factory
? on aftermarket = 40 on factory.

FYI: S4 TII
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizz
Tried the search, didn't really find an answer.

My question is. I'm tring to find a correlation between an aftermarket boost gauge and the factory boost gauge.

Example:
0 on aftermarket = 0 on factory
5-6psi on aftermarket = about halfway up on factory
? on aftermarket = 40 on factory.

FYI: S4 TII
Convert 40inHg to PSI.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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haha, the stock boost gauge is purely for looks... It's completely inaccurate, lol.

The only way to know what you're truly boosting is to get an aftermarket gauge.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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The factory is in mmHg. I'm also tring to validate how close the stock gauge is.

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Convert 40inHg to PSI.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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I do have an aftermarket boost gauge. Long story short, I'm tring to find why my boost seems a little low. (About 8psi) Before I could reach 10 and the stock gauge would read just under 40. Now my aftermarket reads 8 and factory is still 40. I'm just typing outloud tring to get some ideas.

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haha, the stock boost gauge is purely for looks... It's completely inaccurate, lol.

The only way to know what you're truly boosting is to get an aftermarket gauge.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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hmm... Perhaps a miniature boost leak somewhere?
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mindspin311
Convert 40inHg to PSI.
1 PSI of pressure = 51.71 mmHg (note mm, not inches of Hg)
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 05:49 AM
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FC boost gauges are calibrated in tens of millimetres of mercury (that's what the x10 mmHg means). This unit is the height mercury would rise in a U-tube if you applied pressure at one end when the other end is open to atmosphere. Atmospheric pressure is 760mmHg or 14.7psi, so 1psi is just under 52mmHg.

The scale on the Series 4 boost gauge goes up to "40" meaning 400 mmHg (7.7 psi). The Series 5 boost gauge goes a little higher to "45" or 450 mmHg (8.7 psi). Both gauges go down "-20" (-200 mmHg, 7.9 inHg), but in normal running the actual manifold pressure is much lower than that. Idle is around -400 mmHg; cruise about -250 mmHg and under high-rpm, closed-throttle goes as low as -500 mmHg. The only time you'll see the stock gauge rise off the "-20" mark is under acceleration or when climbing a hill.

Max boost (S4 6.6 psi, S5 8.3 psi) should see both gauges at almost full-scale, but in stock form most cars can't get that high anymore due to clogged cats and worn turbos, but modified cars will easily go off the top of the scale.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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closed throttle high rpm - i have been about to get almost -700
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Sounds like you have a small pressure leak in the mechanical gauge's hose.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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That was one of my thoughts.

So I was thinking:
Leak in aftermarket boost gauge/line
Leak in intake (anywhere from AFM to LIM)
Leaking BOV
Malfunction wastegate
Malfunction twin scroll
Maybe because it has been 90+ degrees outside. Air is not as dense.

Am I forgetting anything?

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Sounds like you have a small pressure leak in the mechanical gauge's hose.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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That is about right. My stock gauge goes to 40 and my aftermarket goes to about 8. Damn, I'd really like to get my 2psi back. :-(

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The scale on the Series 4 boost gauge goes up to "40" meaning 400 mmHg (7.7 psi). The Series 5 boost gauge goes a little higher to "45" or 450 mmHg (8.7 psi). Both
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Can anybody think of anything else to check besides what is listed below? Anybody? Please. :-)

Originally Posted by Wizz
That was one of my thoughts.

So I was thinking:
Leak in aftermarket boost gauge/line
Leak in intake (anywhere from AFM to LIM)
Leaking BOV
Malfunction wastegate
Malfunction twin scroll
Maybe because it has been 90+ degrees outside. Air is not as dense.

Am I forgetting anything?
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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sure:


vacuum line blown off


not that uncommon for the lines to pop off under higher than stock boost. i assume you have checked all of the ones you can see though?
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
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vacuum line blown off


not that uncommon for the lines to pop off under higher than stock boost. i assume you have checked all of the ones you can see though?
Yes I have checked. Still looking for the cause of lowered boost.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizz
Can anybody think of anything else to check besides what is listed below? Anybody? Please. :-)
It's summer now. Heat.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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could also be intake manifold gaskets wearing out....have you messed with the manifolds any? especially the upper? I know that with a fried UIM gasket, I was only boosting at about 6psi...after replacement, I was boosting at 11...
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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The boost guage reads out in units of millimeters of mercury. We like to see our pressure readout in psi (pounds/square inch). The conversion factor is .1934. Crunching thru the figures, we get:
5 = 1.0 psi
10 = 1.9 psi
15 = 2.9 psi
20 = 3.9 psi
25 = 4.8 psi
30 = 5.8 psi
35 = 6.8 psi
40 = 7.7 psi
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
We like to see our pressure readout in psi...
Isn't it about time that changed?
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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no us americans will never go fully over to metric. We tried it in the late 70s and it just didnt' work. Its a pitty because some of the metric stuff is great! some not so much but hey take what we can. Example everyone in the US knows what 2 liters of fluid looks like because that is how we sell soda. BUT if i told you i had a 1.3 liter displacement in my engine. 90% of those same people would go, "huh??"

Confusion:
Crossing into canada from US. Buying gas. first you need to figure out how many liters per gallon. (3.8?) then convert the current rate of exchange (20%) and then you can figure out how much you spent. lets see $.89/Lt is that expensive?!?!?!?
(Yes)

anyway it will be SLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW but we will get it.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks for the replys.
I have found my 2-3 psi! :-) Damn boost gauge is wacky. Tried my buddy's and I have my 10 psi back. At least Autometer (I know :-/) is going to exchange it.


Originally Posted by Wizz
Yes I have checked. Still looking for the cause of lowered
boost.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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**** Autometer boost gauges.


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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 03:59 AM
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I'll second that...
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Originally Posted by AUGieDogie
no us americans will never go fully over to metric. We tried it in the late 70s and it just didnt' work. Its a pitty because some of the metric stuff is great! some not so much but hey take what we can. Example everyone in the US knows what 2 liters of fluid looks like because that is how we sell soda. BUT if i told you i had a 1.3 liter displacement in my engine. 90% of those same people would go, "huh??"

Confusion:
Crossing into canada from US. Buying gas. first you need to figure out how many liters per gallon. (3.8?) then convert the current rate of exchange (20%) and then you can figure out how much you spent. lets see $.89/Lt is that expensive?!?!?!?
(Yes)

anyway it will be SLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW but we will get it.
0.89$/liter = expensive????

i'm from austria, i spent per liter 95Octan abaut 1.1€, thats ~1,37$... :/

i hate europe, time to go to the states or australia
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