hondahater

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Ok well I'm getting hot start issues with my car because it probably has about 65k miles on the jspec engine so It is time for a rebuild. Plus I want to port it so that I can get more hp Anyways wayne I don't want to hear it, lol. Well my problem is, I've looked at the archive section that shows what exactly I need for the best price rebuild but I get rather confused. I was just wondering if someone can list the parts I will need to do this rebuild. I'd like to go with RA seals and mazda springs and fd corner seals but other than that I don't really care as long as it's cheap or if something is a few dollars more but more reliable I'll go with that. Thanks for the help guys!

edit: What I'd really really want is if you guys would be so kind as to list the best price rebuild posible with reliability in mind. Thanks!

jhammons01

That archived post "13b rebuild kit" from Karack asnwers just that. dDubs list is the most cost efficient list that is out there= aprox $550. Mine is all Mazda parts from Mazdatrix at about $877 with the thermo plug. From what you specified dDubs list would suit you just fine.

hondahater

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thanks man, so I just look at dDubs list. Ok, now for this question is the 550 dollar rebuild kit he was talking about everything I need?

SonicRaT

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When you planning to do the rebuild? Too bad I won't have a car for a while in TX or I'd head over and help you out!

hondahater

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Man that would be awesome! I'll go pick you up lol, I just met up with the puertorican guy that has been working on rx7's for ever and rebuilds them and ports them etc... From what I've seen he is extremely good at rebuilding these engines so I think I'm going to be giving the engine to him and I'll order the parts and for his labor I'm going to be hooking him up with a computer and a cheapy laptop to tune his car.

oh rat on your way to texas let me know when you will be around this area. You should stop by. I may not be rebuilding the engine if it's going to be soon. If it is soon we can go for a drive in the car and bang the crap out of it since I"m going to be rebuilding it

SonicRaT

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Haha, I'll probably be through there mid next week, probably have the fiance with tho, so dunno how long we'd get to stay (I needa find a hotel somewhere in that area too)

hondahater

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I can ask the wife. we may beable to set yall up a small bed and let yall sleep over if you want? If not then there are plenty of places because all the casinos are in lake charles. Anyways let me know we can at least bring yall somewhere to eat maybe. They got good seafood places or home cooked places etc...

SonicRaT

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Haha, will do! We'll definatly be making a stop in that region, simply because I'm not in the mood to drive 800 mile days. You ever fix all of your problems, might be a good time to revisit them! Going to be one hell of a long drive...

hondahater

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yeah fixed all the problems but the hot start issues and I think it's just cause the engine is getting kind of older and the compression isn't quite all there. I've never really done a compression test on this motor, lol, it always just worked but of course I am pushing more hp through it now then I was before so I'm sure thats some of the reason. Man I feel you on the long drive part. Me and a friend drove from louisiana to florida then to south and north carolina and on to Tennessee and all the way over to Las Vegas and then california needless to say that was a long *** drive. The 200sx broke down on us in Las Vegas so we descided to get a bus all the way to san fransisco. I did the hole vegas thing and got trashed and then had to sit next to this fat lady all the way to san fran, ohhh that sucked Anyways the wife just said if you need a place to stay yall are welcome to stay here. Just let me know.

SonicRaT

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Anyway, now that we're WAY off topic, I'll talk to my other half and see what she thinks (she gets kind of nervous about staying with people she doesn't know). But we'll definately do something or other, louisiana should have some killer local food!

Turbo II-FB

well just go to rotary aviation and buy there o ring kit. then go to atkins and buy are the hard seals and springs. thre you go a good reiable motor

hondahater

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cool, very understandable, if she isn't comfortable like I said there are tons of places to stay for a pretty damn reasonable price. It being the week day you won't have to worry about places being booked so your all good. Yeah the food is good especially if you are going through New Orleans you will have some of the best places to eat there.

hondahater

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so you wouldn't get the ra seals?

Jager

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Sonik, I thought you were going to come to my house and sleep in my bed. The spare one that is.

RotaryEvolution

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RA seals are fine but i would go with OEM springs for the apex seals.

their o-rings are kind of a PITA to work with but if your mechanic has worked with their o-rings before then it shouldn't be a problem. the gasket kit from RA is also cheaper than any i have found for the T2 but i really have no clue about the quality of the exhaust gaskets though the OEM's are fairly resilient to reuse.

the price Atkins has listed for their seals does not include springs, i was kind of disappointed in the price since they are close to the dealer price for new seals and springs after my discount..

hondahater

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I was thinking about doing this same thing because I've heard some bad things about the RA springs

I have all new exhaust gaskets now so I think that should be fine but as far as RA's o-rings I don't believe he has ever worked with thier products. He is more into oem kits or atkins. How expensive are the o-rings from atkins and mazda?

Yeah really the only seals I see that are a fairly good price is RA. Mazda wants what, 500 or so for the set

hondahater

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Karak if you could make me a list of everything I will need and tell me where to get it at the best price I will forever be in your debt Thanks!

Turbo II-FB

well I have had sombosy I know have bad experince with ra apex seals..But I'm no going to go into that beacuse It will cause a agument. But The RA Oring kit comes with viton seals and the coolant seals which can take overheating ,and in some cases can be reused due to there durablity

RotaryEvolution

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i can make you a list out tonight when i get home.

ddub

It depends. The price of the rebuild I was quoting in that thread was for an n/a, some of the gaskets for turbos are more expensive, especially the gasket kit for example.

Also, it may not be everything you "need." Best bet is to open up the engine, inspect parts, check to see if things are within spec, and then see what you really "need." The stuff on my list is the very basics and what has to be done, but more could need replacing.

And for instance, my current build this is my list thus far.

- RA apex seals
- OEM springs from mazdatrix
- Gasket kit from mazdatrix
- Side seal springs from mazdatrix
- Oil seal springs (yes I'm replacing them, and getting the competition ones) from mazdatrix
- E-shaft plug from mazdatrix
- I'm replacing the front regulator spring, e-shaft spring, and oil cooler spring bought from the dealership
- Viton oil rings from atkins
- Front/rear main seals from atkins
- FD corner springs from atkins
- Solid corner seals from atkins
- I'm going to check the wear on all of my side seals and see if any need replacement, if so I'm getting them from atkins
- Replacing my thermostat while I'm at it
- New MFR rotor bearings
- TypeII stat gears from racing beat
- MFR oil pressure regulator from mazdatrix
- Coolant filler neck cap/o-ring/gasket from mazdatrix
- Pilot bearing/seal from atkins
- Throwout bearing will most likely be replaced too


And that's about all I remember. The bolded things are just optional parts

SonicRaT

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Get the FC3S viton oil rings, the atkins ones are such a pain in the *** to use and they usually tear/etc on install.

hondahater

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thanks guys! I don't want to make there be more work for this guy then neccasary so I'm all about the fc3s viton oil rings. So is it just basic rebuild knowledge to tear the egine down first and see what I need before ordering anything? I was just going to order it all and replace it but if there is a lot of things that don't wear that easily then maybe it is worth it to reuse that stuff. I just want a really reliable engine that will last some trips to houston (2hours) and new orleans (4hours) away. My first thing to do after the rebuild is to get the thing tuned by a pro. I know an safc can only take you so far but that is all I've got and I'm sure there are people out there that can tune it. So dDub would you suggest all that stuff you got in bold for reliability reasons? Like I said that is my number one priority. Oh and thanks a million karak! Also thanks for your list dDub!

ddub

Eh? Maybe they've changed them since the last time you used them because on the rebuild I did last summer it took all of about 2 seconds to get the o-rings into each oil control ring.

hondahater

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interesting. Last question but important should I tear down the engine before purchasing anything?

jhammons01

That PR guy's name isn't Vick is it?? From Houston area???