thompsonrx7

So i came across this Rx7 in a field out by my house. So i decided i would walk up and try and buy some body parts off of it for my 87 gxl. Well i offered the guy 400 bucks for the whole car and it is a 1986 and i believe it had the turbo motor in it before? there is no motor but comes with a tranny is that a good deal?
Would i just need to order a Jspec 13bt and it should just drop right in?

let me know what i would need to put a 13bt in a 86 Turbo model thanks... or direct me to the correct thread. thanks guys

brandon

InsomniacFC

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The ghetto way to check is to see what size rims it has. Turbo II's had 16 inch rims, but they could have been taken off at any time, so that's not a surefire way. Another is to see if it has a stock boost gauge in the control cluster. It's where the N/A voltmeter usually is. You could also run the vin.

And if I remember correctly, the turbo model wasn't offered in the US until 1987. So if it's a straight up 1986 and not that "late 86/early 87" deal it's probably not a turbo.

Houstonderk

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I have an 86, but put the whole Tii drivetrain in it, and the five lug calipers. Pretty sure I could make people think mine was a stock Tii. I'm pretty sure the Tii started at 87 though.

thompsonrx7

Ok i mean i will double check... i was just curious because this one might be a 87 i will check the Vin and see but he didnt put the drive train in it. He said it was turbo with turbo drive train because he bought without motor and was going to put a small block in it? it has the sawblade type rims which are 15x

thompsonrx7

http://www.karmagroup.us/photo/vehic...s/page_54.html

that link states there was a 86 turbo II? I am confused? and them are the bolt pattern on it.

Sideways7

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Yes, turbos weren't offered in teh states until '87. To check, the VIN on an NA starts with JM1 FC331, while the turbos start with JM1 FC332. I forget what the placement and letter are for the year but you can easily look it up.

thompsonrx7

Well damn...It must be a 87 then. the guy said 86 but i am sure it is the turbo drive train... and it didnt say Gxl or anything on the fenders. Like my 87 does... Well i will have to check the vin

thompsonrx7

Does anyone know a good thread...so lets say it is a 87 non turbo model with a 5 bolt rear end. How hard is it to just swap a turbo motor in it? Just buy a motor with a harness and ecu, bolt it up and go?

Funkspectrum

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look at the gauge cluster. If it has a boost gauge instead of a voltmeter, chances are it could have been converted. also, turbos had electric windows and electric mirrors.

as far as swapping a turbo engine into an NA, check the FAQ sticky at the top of the page and there should be a link in it to the procedure...

thompsonrx7

Ok i will have to check that... So what link to swap a turbo motor in a non turbo car? I really hope it is a turbo model.

MaczPayne

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N/A models had the weaker tranny and rear end. You'd want the whole TII driveline for reliability's sake. If it is an s4, you must get an s4 engine/ecu, otherwise you'd run into wiring issues.

fidelity101

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+1

no turbo FC offered to the states in 86

Funkspectrum

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ok.....the car is complete right? including a hood?

is there a hood scoop?

thompsonrx7

There is no hood scoop on it... and i mean the drive line is what is messing me up because it is the stock drive train and it is the 5 bolt and has the turbo tranny in it. I am going to go look... and see becaues the hood doesnt belong on it. I will check vin

Funkspectrum

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how do you know it's the turbo transmission?? Count the teeth on the input shaft spline. there should be 23 teeth if it's a turbo transmission. 22 if it's an NA...


Keep in mind that most NA's came 5 lug and a lot had turbo brakes from the factory...

thompsonrx7

Turbo Rx seven VIN does it start with a 1 or 2????

Funkspectrum

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it starts with a 2 I believe

thompsonrx7

I am going tonight to write the VIN down i will do a search on it... and check for other signs...and how do you determine if you have a S4 or S5?

TehMonkay

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It's an S4, 86 - 88 is s4. 15" wheels and no scoop and he says its an 86, all of the components bolt on to the non turbo cars so no doubt its an na car with a turbo drivetrain, yes, you can drop a turbo engine in it alot easier than other ars, an easier way to chek if its a turbo tranny is the see the amount of drain fill and check bolts, na has 1 drain and 1 fill, turbo has a drain, fill and check, and maybe 1 more.

Funkspectrum

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hmmm....bumpers and moulding are different, gauge clusters different, stereo surround different, steering wheels different....unless someone swapped all that ****.

count the teeth on the transmission input shaft. if you got 23 teeth, you have a turbo transmission.

That's an easy way to tell if the engine is already out.

thompsonrx7

So either way this car would be better because it has the 5 bolt rear end and i could just swap a Turbo motor in it with a turbo tranny, and motor and harness and computer? without changing in chasis wiring for the dash?

Funkspectrum

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no change in dash wiring....except you have to add a knock box which would be under the passenger side kick panel.

MaczPayne

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Make sure you get the same series engine also, if you get an s5, you will have many problems to deal with, such as wiring, premix, etc. Like Funk said, count the splines on the tranny input shaft.

TehMonkay

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It's not a 5 bolt rear end, it's a 7 or 8 inch one, turbos are 8 inches.

slpin

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it isnt a turbo............................................. ..............
its 86