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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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That's if it even starts... (I don't want to know)

Oh, and for the rotary vs. piston flaming in my thread--keep it up. Especially the passionate rotary loving defense...

Pistons and V8's, etc. on an Rx7 forum equals


throw in an SR hahahah nahh.. im just jokin....

i hope the motor isnt totally fucked.. i know how hard it is to find t2 rotors and housings and such...

lemme know later about the turbo..

cheers,Dan.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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So it's not that the Rotary is unreliable. It's just that the rotary has less tolerance for error? Is that what i'm hearing?
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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No, I'm not really a pilot..I'm just a licensed commercial helicopter pilot with an instrument rating. I'm type rated in the Boeing Vertol 234 and several light utility helicopters. However, flying is not an occupation for me, currently a hobby only.

I'm not shitting where I eat. The rotary isn't the best platform for a car. This isn't an opinion but observation based on the countless "I've blown my engine threads" here. I belong to several automobile websites for other vehicles I own and guess what, this website (rx7) has by far the greated number of engine problems. I'm not basing this on personal experience, but just reading all of YOUR posts. Either the engine is not reliable or the operator/user is an idiot.

Perhaps, I'm wrong and the engine is reliable. Perhaps, the stupid 16 year old punks on this website, the same ones who can't figure out how to wear a baseball cap correctly are also cueless about general operation and maintenance of a vehicle. Maybe the engines are unreliable because the operators idea of maintenance are fart can mufflers, stickers, painted dashes, LED lighting, cone airfiliters and other useless "improvements".

As for my own experience with rotary engines...I have yet to blow one and I've only owned four in the past 15+ years. However, my personal experience appears to be the exception. I also recognize that the rotary engine doesn't tolerate attempts to squeeze extra power out of it. You guys rag on me for not being a rotary purist, but hey, I'm not the one trying to squeeze 250-300 HP out of a 1.3 liter engine.

I'm actually a fan of the rotary engine but unlike many of you, I RECOGNIZE its limitations and respect them.

Bahahaha This is ironic coming from a helicopter pilot. Specially the maintance that is required to keep a chopper in the air. Man you are arragant.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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hahhaa...u guys need to chill out.....rotary is just unique.....

when it was first popularized....everyone bought a patent from NSU (including major brands, chevy, MB etc....) it didnt catch on cause pistons were already 60+ years old with many improvements....most companies just decided to stick with the tried and trued method instead of trying something new(cause gas was like 3.50 a gallon).....if its possible to invest the same amount of money and research efforts into the rotary project u'd probably see a renesis motor in 60s....rotaries simply didnt have enough time to develope...another thing......rotaries looooove steady high revs(aero planes)....so until someone developes a more advanced CVT transmission.....the rotary potential wont be realized

Q: why do rotaries owners eventually blow up their engine?....A: cause theres probably a alittle mechanical engineer in all of us...and when u give a engineer something fun u can bet he'll do what he can to push it to its limits.........

when hydrogen fuel comes around imma be happy that my car (designed in the 60s) is already ready for it
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by homebrewer
As for my own experience with rotary engines...I have yet to blow one and I've only owned four in the past 15+ years. However, my personal experience appears to be the exception. I also recognize that the rotary engine doesn't tolerate attempts to squeeze extra power out of it. You guys rag on me for not being a rotary purist, but hey, I'm not the one trying to squeeze 250-300 HP out of a 1.3 liter engine.

I'm actually a fan of the rotary engine but unlike many of you, I RECOGNIZE its limitations and respect them.

Well I am a rotary purist and I completely respect and agree with your above point of view.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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hey homebrewer, **** you for stereotyping young people and assuming the unknown. and i'm pretty sure there is a 8 second 1000 horsepower??!?! 1.3 liter rotary on the dragstrip somewhere, that person knew how to squeeze some horsepower.


Your missing his point of view. It's not about "How" much hp the 1.3 liter can make. We all know it's very capable. It's "how" long it will do it. There is only so much you can ask of a small displacement engine and expect it to be reliable in the long run. This is the number one reason so many people are going the Ls1 route. Now if we had larger displacement versions available to handle that kind of power reliably, we wouldn't be having this discussion about rotary engine reliability.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:14 AM
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t-von what part of texas are you in?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by t-von
Your missing his point of view. It's not about "How" much hp the 1.3 liter can make. We all know it's very capable. It's "how" long it will do it. There is only so much you can ask of a small displacement engine and expect it to be reliable in the long run. This is the number one reason so many people are going the Ls1 route. Now if we had larger displacement versions available to handle that kind of power reliably, we wouldn't be having this discussion about rotary engine reliability.
20b?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
Arent you the same guy that bragged about letting his friend drive the car with 10 miles on the rebuild knowing that he would drive it hard? No offense, but you get no sympathy from me.
Originally Posted by eriksseven
No.

I simply let a friend borrow my car when he was in need. Then I added that he was trustworthy by explaining why.

Yeah right, there's NO way I'd let someone borrow a fresh-rebuild TII who was going to be hard on it...
Yea Im all about messing up my best friends car

Their was no way I was going to be hard on that car, he was doing me a favor, by lending me his car, while my car was being rebuilt, and I was doing him a favor by putting miles and fuel in his car

I was also going through the same break in period in my daily driver:
91' VW Jetta Coupe
Full Corrado Vr6 engine, drivetrain, suspension...ect


The TII had its "one night of golory" once again......man it felt so good, untill well, you know

I know I sure wasn't helping to enforce the low boost low RMP agenda, sorry bro I was way too addicted to how friggin' fast it was

So I guess its : in your garage
and the TII will live again

-b out
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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did u get it towed up your driveway yet?
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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and i was thinking of buying that thing.. dammit erik.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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any pics of the tear down
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II-FB
any pics of the tear down
Hmm... Tomorrow is teardown day actually.

I think I'll take pics...? This ought to be fun, lol.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:20 AM
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Ah I wish I could find a rotary only forum... anyways, when you rebuild your own engine expect problems...I'm not going to bother pulling out all of my hair trying to rebuild my own engine. I'm so glad a great rebuilder lives less than 10 mins away from me I'll just pull my engine and drop it off on Karacks doorstep no hasstle..and I'm sure I'd end up having to rebuild my engine at least 5 times..
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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anything eric
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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I'm uploading the pics right now.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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i guess it good i have a seperate project car for my N/A>TII conversion since everyone is having such good luck with motors i'm going to take my time and do mine carefully. Good luck man this sucks alot, your car is the sexxX. you should keep it, financial **** sucks but i can never part with my cars, id rather blow them up than lets someone else have their way with them. targa
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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you should keep it
Don't worry, I've got a secret project in the works... muhuhahahaha.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by homebrewer
I'm not shitting where I eat. The rotary isn't the best platform for a car. This isn't an opinion but observation based on the countless "I've blown my engine threads" here. I belong to several automobile websites for other vehicles I own and guess what, this website (rx7) has by far the greated number of engine problems. I'm not basing this on personal experience, but just reading all of YOUR posts. Either the engine is not reliable or the operator/user is an idiot.
Ok I wasn't going to get in this argument because I know who is right and it's not the piston people, lol. Anyways are you a member of any other 18+ year old sports car sites???? probably not! These cars are old and with most of us being the 3rd, 4th and 5th owner and trying to fix the problems that occured from the neglect of the previous owners I would say that there would be lots of problems however the thing your also missing is that when my car is working fine do I post on this forum??? nope, I'm out driving it so my point being that people are mostly going to post on here when they have a problem. You show me 1 sports car from America that is that old without problems like ours and I will buy it! The fact of the matter is in 18 years (without being restored or well kept) an american car with the all mighty v8 is going to have just as many probelms if not more than the rx7. Actually most American cars start falling apart quicker than that witch is why thier resell value is so damn shitty.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
Ok I wasn't going to get in this argument because I know who is right and it's not the piston people, lol. Anyways are you a member of any other 18+ year old sports car sites???? probably not! These cars are old and with most of us being the 3rd, 4th and 5th owner and trying to fix the problems that occured from the neglect of the previous owners I would say that there would be lots of problems however the thing your also missing is that when my car is working fine do I post on this forum??? nope, I'm out driving it so my point being that people are mostly going to post on here when they have a problem. You show me 1 sports car from America that is that old without problems like ours and I will buy it! The fact of the matter is in 18 years (without being restored or well kept) an american car with the all mighty v8 is going to have just as many probelms if not more than the rx7. Actually most American cars start falling apart quicker than that witch is why thier resell value is so damn shitty.

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