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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 09:03 AM
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why are some people trying to discourage the kid? He realizes the cost it takes, but why not plan it as a long term project? I sorta wanna see this thing go down
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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When you're 18 you don't need to be driving an FD.. unless you're one of the rare teenagers that's actually not stupid on the roads (and they all think they're careful), then you shouldn't be driving anything even remotely close to that fast.

The kid whose parents own most of the Coney Island restraunts came to our school in his freshman year with his nice new Trans Am mommy and daddy bought him.. he was doing ~ 100 in a 35 zone with trees & poles on both sides.. lost control, killed himself and almost killed his passengers.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but even a TurboII I think is too much for anyone under 18. You can think otherwise, just don't kill anyone I know on the street and/or sidewalk and/or in buildings and/or in houses, and/or... you get the point.
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Barwick
When you're 18 you don't need to be driving an FD.. unless you're one of the rare teenagers that's actually not stupid on the roads (and they all think they're careful), then you shouldn't be driving anything even remotely close to that fast.

The kid whose parents own most of the Coney Island restraunts came to our school in his freshman year with his nice new Trans Am mommy and daddy bought him.. he was doing ~ 100 in a 35 zone with trees & poles on both sides.. lost control, killed himself and almost killed his passengers.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but even a TurboII I think is too much for anyone under 18. You can think otherwise, just don't kill anyone I know on the street and/or sidewalk and/or in buildings and/or in houses, and/or... you get the point.
Wow Barwick, that's a good story to tell these kids. I know NOW how to handle a car, even to work on it sometimes, but when you're that young, ANY high horsepower car's dangerous.
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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true that about young kids and horsepower. i broke the back tires loose around a corner in my TII and almost hit someone. luckily my countersteer was enough and i missed. boy did i learn my lesson. now im into autocross cones dont dent your car as much as other things on the roads. just my $.20

EDIT: I couldnt even look at my car for more than a week. I was scared shitless

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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by HWO



Ever heard of doing work on the car yourself? Your own labour is FREE, thats right it costs you NOTHING.

the only thing which i haven't done in my car was the rollcage, the exhuast, both done by a proper fabricator and the paint - a friend did that at GOOOOD price

Some people spend $40K on a car and get it to the same standard as someone who has spent $20K and done 95% of the work themselves. the first person forked out $20K in labour charges
i did all my own labor except for 1 aluminum weld and the downpipe. that is an estimate based on the time i have in the car.

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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by TriTurboGen3 RX-7
that sounds exactly like the 787B, I think you all can guess my inspiration for this dream.
I'm also assuming this dream is a wet one.

By the way... "Motor mounts and a reality check." LMAO
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 11:41 PM
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Umm k

Sorry to burst your bubble, but even a TurboII I think is too much for anyone under 18. You can think otherwise, just don't kill anyone I know on the street and/or sidewalk and/or in buildings and/or in houses, and/or... you get the point.
Well first of all you don't know **** about ME.
I'm not like alot of kids who there Mommy buys them a car and they have no respect for it. In fact it quit the opposite, i'm goign to be working my *** for this car. I'm going to treat it likes the most valuble thing known to man, i'm not going to go out an say wow this looks like a sharp turn i'll see how fast i can take.

Driving skill has nothing to do with age of the driver. Alot about driving, is understanding how your car is going to react under different situations, and how to controll it in those situations. And it is a long learing curve to know all of this, which is why i'm going to take it VERY slowly learning what my car can do, and how it will react. Another factor in driving is NOT being a dumbass with it, which is obviosly what the kid ur talking about did. Which does not mean i'm going to do dumbshit like that.

That would be like if i assumed you were gay because other people your age are gay.

You wanna jump on someone for not knowing how do drive go bitch and moan about kids have sweet cars, in the post about the guy jumping trian track at 100+ mph.
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 11:41 PM
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You guys speak the truth about young kids and fast cars. I used to think I was the **** because I could toss the tail of the minivan out around a corner through a wet gutter, and I could do crazy stupid **** in a parking lot. At some point, I wanted an FD but couldn't afford one, then I saw a really cool, affordable sports car in the SW20 MR2.
Then someone pointed out to me a sticky on board.mr2faq.com about teenagers/inexperienced drivers driving an MR2. Lots of 16-18 year olds get along fine with them, but many of them end up crashing them. I'd probably end up crashing the FD either with me or one of my friends at the wheel. So instead, I'm gonna get an S13 or an NA FC.

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The 4-Rotor in the 787B had an elaborate variable intake system, and it was reliable for a LeMans race, not a street driver.

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What I think is that a 4-rotor is like putting a Lexus V8 into a Supra. It'd be really cool to do, it has potential, but to some people it may not be worth all the trouble.
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 12:44 AM
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Yes i know the 787B uses a Variable Geometry intake plenum, thats controlled by the ECU. ANyone know how the hell this works?? I mean WTF how do change the geometry of metal ??
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by TriTurboGen3 RX-7
Yes i know the 787B uses a Variable Geometry intake plenum, thats controlled by the ECU. ANyone know how the hell this works?? I mean WTF how do change the geometry of metal ??
The intake trumpets consist of two pipes which fold up like a telescope. The intakes of the first two rotors are connected to a linear ballbearing which runs along a guide rod, and the intakes for the second two rotors are also set up the same way. The ECU controls an electric motor and cable system which telescopes the intakes up and down the guide rod. It's not very complicated until you get to the ECU tuning part.
http://www.media.mazda.com/photo_lib...oshow25_e.html

The variable intakes were only used at LeMans where the extra torque came in handy. If you see the Kudzu at your local race track, you will no longer see the complex variable intake trumpets, as they were ditched for simple fixed trumpets which make more peak hp than the variable unit.
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:44 AM
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Ohh thank you for the info, i was thinkign they had to use some kinda tubing that slides into each other, but i thought they ment they also control the Diameter.
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 03:07 AM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but even a TurboII I think is too much for anyone under 18. You can think otherwise, just don't kill anyone I know on the street and/or sidewalk and/or in buildings and/or in houses, and/or... you get the point.
I agree and disagree, I agree because it is alot of responsibility. But I disagree because I got mine when I was 17, but I pay my own insurance and I pay for repairs/maintenance. Thats a big incentive to drive safe, not to mention I have no auxillary transportation, when my car breaks I stay at home until its fixed. Although in this case it doesnt exactly sound like this kid will be paying his own way.
EDIT: Sorry if you would be paying for your own stuff.

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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 03:32 AM
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Yes i will be paying everything for the FC and working two jobs in order to do so. If were to get the FD i would have to earn it, and then i would be paying insurance, and all repairs.
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 05:26 AM
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In ten years time you'll look back and wonder how you got so lucky to live so long. When you are younger, of course you think everything is cool. Even the boneheads that get themselves killed by their stupidity think they're good to go up until the last few seconds. But when you can reflect back on it is when you realize your mistakes. Please don't take offense to this. This is just the way it was, is, and always will be.

Old people suck, huh?
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by PlayinW/Wankel


Ah young one you have much to learn. If you want to beat him in a straight line there is no realistic way for a FC to beat him, but get him in some nice curves, or challenge him to an autoX.




what are you talking about a fc can make 700HP. and that would beat him.
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