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3" n/a piping?

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by ThePartsTrader
I just measured the exhaust on my race car. The road race headers are 2" OD (each) from the motor for about 35". They then collect (into a 2.5" OD pipe for about 18" before meeting up with the Apex N1 single (claims to be 54mm? ID). It has a nice rumble at idle and is very loud at WOT.

Because my next car is going to be built to SCCA ITS specifications I have been following that class for a while now. The deep pocket racers in that series spend many many hours on a dyno trying different exhaust setups that will give them the most power between 4 and 8k RPM. Becuase that is time/money they have spent to extract an extra 5hp from their car their exhaust systems are a closely guarded secret. And they are not about to give away a speed secret to a competitor.

The description of one exhaust system I read about that was spied on had very short primary header lengths (the distance before they collect) with a small collector (no specific size given). The ehxuast diameter then slowly expanded to a large size (no specific size given) before contracting into a smaller pipe. It also did not go straight out to the rear of the car. Apparently it made a curve out to the center of the car and curved back to the passenger side before exiting out a standard race muffler. The only thing I can imagine for the change in pipe size is to compare it to the "expansion chambers" you see on the modified 2 stroke motorcycles. If you look at them they can start off at around 1" and expand to what appears to be 8" and then back down to a .5" tip. And the extra curve in the exhaust may be necessary to get the right length to maximize the scavaging (sp) effect for a specific RPM range.

Long story short... if you are looking for "Max Power" it is not going to be an off the shelf part
The convergent cone on an expansion chamber would help, but having a divergent cone like they do on 2- strokes wouldnt really do anything for our cars, its there on 2 strokes to reflect a positive wave back to the port to help keep the incomming intake in the cylinder, if timed exactly rite, it can be used as sorta a mini super charger, buy alowing a little intake out the exaust, then rite before the exaust port closes, cramming it all back in with the positive wave. this wouldnt really work on a rotarey though because our combustion faces are seperated, and a lot of other reasons. The small exit on 2 stroke exaust is so that as rpm's rise the pressure in the pipe also rises, rising pressure equals faster travling sound, which make the pipe tuned for a higher rpm, as rpm rises, effectivly matching the pipe to the car at all rpm, this is very hard to get rite, but would work on a rotary, however there is a downside, which is increasingly large amounts of backpressure. on 2 strokes the scavenging, and supercharging effects of the pressure waves make up for this enough to make large gains with this set up, on a rotary how ever, it wouldnt because the only wave yuo can really use is the scavenging wave. the increase in back pressure probably wouldnt be worth it.
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