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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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2nd Gen Speaker Box Question What is best or loudest?

ok I have a question about speaker boxes. Right now i am running a single 8" sub in a tube with a 300 watt amp running 200 watts RMS. I have it faceing the spare tire well. It sounds pretty good. But i want more. Been thinking a loaded box with 2 12" subs what kind of box would be best. Bandpass? Ported? Sealed? Just wanted to know. And what is the differance in these boxes Thanks.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Open exhaust is the loudest hehe JK
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Depends...

Depends on what kind of music you listen to and what kind of sub you buy. Some subs are made for small sealed enclosures and they'll produce tight bass (good for rock). Bandpass IMO sucks. If you have enough power to good subs, you don't need a Bandpass. A big ported box will be louder than the sealed but won't be as accurate, but that's not as important if you listen to alot of rap. For a sub recommendation, check out Image Dynamics at Sounddomain.com. I'm buying some really soon. Alot of JL guys get IDs and like IDs better.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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so band pass sucks huh? Ok I gotta remember that.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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The install is more important than the components that you buy.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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anymore help?
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Why do you think a bandpass box sucks? The best systems I've heard all have them and sound great, including my GF's.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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If you want bass use a ported box. Also use 3/4 inch mdf and be sure to follow the manufactures volume guidelines.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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I aways like the muffled sound of a band pass, and in my experience I have heard a JL w4 in a ported box, sealed and band pass, the later of which hit the hardest, has the massage seat effect......
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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go bigger

Well instead of going with bandpass or 12's and all that other stuff try considering going for a pair of 15's. Eclipse makes small enclousure subwoofers that put out ten times the sound of any 10 or 12 inch sub in a ported or bandpass box i installed two 87151.8 eclipse 15's in a small wedge box which fits perfectly in the hatchback and allows plenty of space to still see out the rear window they're powered by a 50 watt per channel pioneer premeir amplifier and theyll get so loud that it makes breathing difficult inside the car and you could pick them up for almost the same price as a set of 12's in a bandpass box just a suggestion
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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Re: go bigger

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Well instead of going with bandpass or 12's and all that other stuff try considering going for a pair of 15's. Eclipse makes small enclousure subwoofers that put out ten times the sound of any 10 or 12 inch sub in a ported or bandpass box i installed two 87151.8 eclipse 15's in a small wedge box which fits perfectly in the hatchback and allows plenty of space to still see out the rear window they're powered by a 50 watt per channel pioneer premeir amplifier and theyll get so loud that it makes breathing difficult inside the car and you could pick them up for almost the same price as a set of 12's in a bandpass box just a suggestion
Where can you read up on them?
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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i have a 10" infinity kappa sub and a 1ft sealed box and it slams. sealed boxes are totally the way to go. they make for tight bass, not sloppy like what comes out of a bandpass.

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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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I have one 12" in a bandpass box... I built it myself, and it takes up the hatchspace behind the two shock towers... It has 3 ports, all firing towards the seats... two ports in front of the speaker, one behind it. It sounds awesome, and is not "sloppy" at all. Two 12's would be an awful lot to put in that little hatch.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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if you have two ports in front of the speaker and one behind it then it is not a band pass, a band pass has a sealed side and a ported side.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Nope, not true. You have to remember, there are 3rd order, 5th order, 7th order bandpass boxes. I built my bandpass to the specifications provided by the manufacturer, which said to put one 7" long 3"diameter port behind the speaker, and two 3" long 3" diameter ports in front of it.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Re: Re: go bigger

Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die


Where can you read up on them?
eclipse-web.com can tell you about their subs a bit but as far as specs go i had to get them from my local eclipse dealer (shameleful plug) TRAFFIC JAMZ .any eclipse dealer can tell you any information you need to know um but unfortunately thats about as helpful as i can be other than saying that my box has only approximately 3.5 cubic feet of air inside and i get astonishingly deep and clear bass outta it for having two 15 inch subs in it. so visit the local stereo shop

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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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I found places online that sold eclipse subs but they want like $400 per 15" sub. So with a box and everything its like a grand. No way I would pay that much personally.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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I had 2 12's in a sealed ported badpass box, it sounded kinda crappy........ id recoment like on really nice 12'' in a non bandpass box facing taward the spare....
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 04:23 AM
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I have two 10' Boston Subs.. in a seal box. It was in a bypass but that box wouldnt fit in the FC.. but its powered by an Alpine 4 channel + 1 sub channel. It bumps. ..
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
I found places online that sold eclipse subs but they want like $400 per 15" sub. So with a box and everything its like a grand. No way I would pay that much personally.
Then i'd have to say that you were looking in the wrong place for two reasons. Reason one, no dealer can legally sell Eclipse subs online, because only a shop with an eclipse certified installer can sell eclipse products. If you bought them online, the warranty would be void. Second of all, I live in Alaska, where the prices on everything are jacked way up due to shipping fees, and i only paid $300 per sub and an additional $200 for the custom built wedge enclosure. So total i only spent $800 by Alaska prices. The same set up should be able to be purchased for probably around $500 or so in the lower 48. So i'd recommend checking stereo shops before i gave up the idea completely, cuz in the end its a good investment if you're serious about a pounding system.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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I've had setups in my FB...I don't one in my TII...it's a damned distraction and a reason for thieves to break into my car...

I had 1 12" in a sealed box that matched up with the volume req. for the speaker. It sounded cleaner, better, and louder than two 10's in a bandpass box.
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